What exactly is contemplation and contemplative prayer? Is it new age nonsense or does it lie at the very heart of the Christian life? And if it's the latter, how exactly does the average Joe "do" it?! 

In this episode Brandon interviews Dr. Kyle Strobel from Biola's Talbot School of Theology. Dr. Strobel brings an amazing wealth of knowledge about the history of contemplation in the Christian tradition and especially in the protestant tradition. 

This is the third of a series of conversations on the topic of contemplation with experts and practitioners from across the Christian and religious spectrum.

Here's a list books that were mentioned on the show.

Dr. Strobel's Books

Where Prayer Becomes Real: How Honesty with God Transforms Your Soul

Beloved Dust: Drawing Close to God by Discovering the Truth About Yourself

Formed for the Glory of God: Learning from the Spiritual Practices of Jonathan Edwards

Embracing Contemplation: Reclaiming a Christian Spiritual Practice

Books by others

Prayer by Hans Urs von Balthasar