Here is a taped discussion between Earl Neff and Bob Groves who were researchers in Ohio. This tape is from around the time that the Canadian UFO Director Wilbert Smith died in 1962. On this recovered tape you will hear what Wilbert told Groves during his visit to see Wilbert in Ottawa, Canada.

Smith was very open about what he was doing and what the government wasn't. He was also the author of the Top Secret Memo in November 1950 where he pointed out that American officials had told him 1) Flying Saucers exist 2) It is the most highly classified subject in the US government 3) A small group headed by Vannevar Bush (Roosevelt's Science Advisor) was trying to figure out what was going on 4) The subject was of tremendous significance to the American 5) American's believed mental phenomena was involved but they were not have much success figuring it out.

The big disclosure UAP conversation on ufotwitter going on now, is simply plowing the same field that was first plowed by the Canadians and revealed in the 1950s and 60s.