Welcome back to The BDO Show—where the only competitive advantage you need is yourself!

This week, we're honored to sit down with the one and only Pattie Ehsaei, a force of nature in the SBA world. Pattie holds nothing back with hosts Emily Detor and Ray Drew as she delivers a masterclass in sales, success, and the surprising secrets of financial freedom.

If you're a new BDO, an entrepreneur, or anyone looking to level up, you won't want to miss this no-holds-barred conversation on:

• The BDO's Competitive Advantage: Pattie reveals her single biggest competitive advantage is not her institution, rates, or even her bank's credit box—it's herself.

• The "Work-Life Balance" Myth: A controversial (but truthful) take on why top performers, from BDOs to LeBron James, don't have work-life balance—and if they say they do, they're lying.

• Bet on Yourself: Pattie shares her story of leaving a secure job to go back into production, driven by the confidence that she can "still play ball" and "do it better than most people."

• The Power of Delegation: Learn how to avoid getting stuck at a certain production level by embracing the art of letting go and delegating tasks to a trusted team.

• From "Red Power Suit" to "Forbes Contributor": Pattie recounts her character-building start in sales, going door-to-door in heels in the California heat, and how that experience shaped her career.

• The "Broke Dude" Playbook: Get the scoop on Pattie's book, which teaches financial independence and redefines a "broke dude" as anyone who doesn't match your ambition and drive.

• Investing for Wealth: Hear a masterclass on why you should only invest in appreciating assets, not depreciating ones like expensive cars and designer fashion (a lesson Pattie learned firsthand).

Plus, hear Emily get grilled about her accent, a great plant analogy, and a reminder that "the customer can smell desperation."

👉 Got thoughts on work-life balance? Tell us how you really feel in the comments or email us at [email protected].

The BDO Retreat is back for its fifth and final year, and this time, we’re taking you to Key Largo, Florida, on January 16th and 17th.

Join us for a weekend of BDO workshops, exclusive networking, and, as always, a few surprises: https://www.artofsba.com/bdo-retreat 

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SBA Protection

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