What if the road to success wasn’t about chasing more—but about creating better? This week on the show, Brandon and Jon sit down with Joren Smith of Elements Concrete, a craftsman rooted in Maine and inspired by an extraordinary neighbor from Cape Cod—Hiram Ball, a pioneering force in GFRC and a sculptor with soul.

In this introspective and inspiring conversation, Joren walks us through the early days of learning the craft next door to greatness and how that shaped not only his skills—but his values. We explore the tension between ambition and peace, the pursuit of quality over quantity, and why a “successful” concrete career might look a lot more human than you’d expect.

If you’re in the decorative concrete world—or simply someone trying to build a meaningful life through your work—this episode is your invitation to slow down, realign, and remember what you’re really building.

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