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Sometimes the most necessary conversations are the ones we’re still figuring out in real time.

In this episode, we’re sitting down for an honest check-in on what support looks like in our marriage right now—not what it should look like, or what it looks like on paper, but what it feels like to give and receive care when both people are doing their best… and still falling short sometimes.

We’re talking about the tension between good intentions and missed marks, why it’s hard to name your needs, and how perfectionism, parenting, and past experiences can get in the way of asking for help. We share real, in-the-moment reflections on where we’re showing up well—and where we still have work to do.

This one’s vulnerable, practical, and full of grace. It’s not a polished lesson. It’s a conversation we needed to have—and we’re grateful to share it with you.

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