Are Vermonters born, or are they forged through mud, snow, and ice? We asked some of Vermont's political and community leaders what being a real Vermonter means to them. Andy and Joanna share their own perspectives but end up debating the proper way to merge on the interstate.

In our opening segment Joanna gets philosophical about her elderberry tree while Andy discovers the surprising lack of pockets in women's clothing.

In our final segment, Joanna and Andy preview the upcoming week in the legislative session, including the conference committee report on the education bill, the election bill, and potential reconsideration of two bills vetoed by the governor.