It's a gay fantasia because Troy and Dara are talkin' Heated Rivalry and Pillion!

They discuss the Vulture article, Girls Who Like Boys Who Like Boys by E. Alex Young, and How Pillion Perfected the Sub Dom Rom Com by Nathan Tavares for GQ.

It's fan fic, Heated Rivalry obsessions, straight girls in gay bars, Alexander Skarsgard, Polly Pocket dommy mommy, and somehow... The Artist's Way.

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This week, Troy and Dara talk about the woman who raised them... Oprah. They're measuring time in Oprah hair styles, discussing the Avengers (Suze Orman, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, et al.), episodes lost to the Winfrey vault, and Troy details another daytime talk show live taping experience.

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In today's bonus episode, we travel back in time and behind a paywall to the very first time Troy and Dara podcasted together. This episode was recorded back in 2020 for a patreon episode of Troy's podcast, The Smush Room.

They deep dive into the lives of Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt, including their relationship dynamics on The Hills, Heidi's family dynamics, plastic surgery, and more. For a companion piece, listen to the recent What's Your Issue? patreon episode where Troy and Dara discuss Heidi's infamous People magazine cover to see if they totally contradict themselves 6 years later.

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This week's listener-suggested issue is Interview Magazine from July 1992 with cover girl (emphasis on GIRL) Drew Barrymore. Troy and Dara discuss the controversial photoshoot by Bruce Webber, Drew's career revival at 17, her lolita era, and how the adults in her life failed her. Plus, why Drew is the true definition of a manic pixie dream girl, erotic thrillers, and Troy's experience seeing a live taping of Drew's talk show.

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Troy and Dara discuss the January 17th, 1994 Newsweek cover story about Nancy Kerrigan. The story is written just after Nancy was attacked, but before anyone knew Tonya Harding might have anything to do with it. They talk about Nancy as a competitor and star, Troy's childhood prodigy potential, and reminisce about Olympic figure skating in the 1990s.

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This week, Troy and Dara discuss 4 year old cover girl Raven-Symoné, who graced the pages of the April 1990 issue of JET Magazine. We talk about her rep as the most punctual toddler in Hollywood, her tenure on The View, the Cosby of it all, and child stardom.

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In this week's bonus episode, Troy and Dara answer more listener AMA questions, including:

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There's a new scammer in town!! (allegedly). This week, Troy and Dara break down the Vanity Fair article, "Bryant Simmons’s Frenemies Call Him a Scammer. He Says They’re Just Jealous" by Clara Molot.

A talented stylist accused of swindling Manhattan's fashionable elite, Simmons has all the trappings to become the next great scammer success story. Of course, you can't talk New York City scammers without bringing up Caroline Calloway; plus, Troy and Dara describe some of their own personal con jobs.

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Since everyone else is talking about 2016, we thought we'd try and mooch off the relevant keywords and make a bonus episode about it.

We discuss celebrity couples, The Good Wife, American Idol, Katy Perry at Burning Man, Kim Kardashian's robbery, and more!

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This week, Troy and Dara discuss The New Yorker 1994 article "Chloë's Scene" by Jay McInerny, and New York Magazine/The Cut's 2024 (and recirculated in 2025) profile, "A Suitable Change for Chloë Sevigny" by Emily Gould.

The conversation evolves into a meditation on It Girls:

Paris Hilton and Tinsley Mortimer - It Girls or That Girls?

The It Boy

The It Girl and Existentialism, and

Will society allow the It Girl to become an It Woman?

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