Some credit union leaders are building small business programs, investing in community growth, and doing the hard work. Others are still hiding behind "we can't"—and it might be costing the industry its future.

In this episode of Grow Your Credit Union, host Joshua Barclay is joined by co-host Becky Reed and guest John Holt, CEO of Nutmeg State Financial Credit Union, to talk about the controversy around CEO golden parachutes, the untapped opportunity in small business lending, and whether chasing CDFI grants is really worth it.

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