Life is messy - even for pastors.  Why? Because they are human.

In this episode, Fred Herron, former pastor of the Vineyard mega church in Kansas City joins us to share his story of how insomnia and ministry burn out led him down a dark path that ultimately caused him to spin out of control and be removed from his church. From pedestal to the front page of the Sunday edition of the Kansas City Star, Fred calls himself a prodigal pastor. His story is both gut-wrenching and refreshing for all of us who struggle with being the "perfect" Christian. 

Now, two years later, Fred is brutally honest about his recovery, his shame and how he is trying to find hope again, both in his heart and in his work as he has launched Spirituality Adventures - a nonjudgmental place to explore spirituality. 

Special Guest: Fred Herron
To learn more about Fred's story, listen to his podcast Spirituality Adventures,  or go to  www.RealFredHerron.com. 

Resources on emotional intelligence:
It's Not Always Depression: Working the Change Triangle to Listen to the Body, Discover Core Emotions, and Connect to Your Authentic Self by Hilary Jacobs Hendel

Permission to Feel: Unlocking the Power of Emotions to Help Our Kids, Ourselves, and Our Society Thrive by Marc Brackett