DeRay sits down for a candid conversation with Katy Perry in person about race, cultural appropriation, allyship, political tension in her family and what Katy’s doing to grown and learn. DeRay chats with Clarence Wardell of Results for America about using data on policing, schools and the environment to foster American cities that work. Brittany, Sam and DeRay dive into this past week’s news including environmental conditions at prisons and the DOJ’s latest emoluments defense. This episode is dedicated to people taken from us in the Pulse nightclub shooting one year ago.