The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother.

Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React's evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.

In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot
• (01:39) - Introduction to The Primeagen
• (04:21) - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon
• (14:13) - Tech hot takes
• (44:49) - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use
• (56:38) - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech
• (01:02:25) - The Primeagen’s take on pornography
• (01:18:09) - The influence of The Primeagen's father's passing
• (01:21:48) - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars

Quotes

[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ The Primeagen

[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ The Primeagen

[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. It’s just not 1.0.” ~ The Primeagen

Links

• The Primeagen YouTube
• The Primeagen Twitter
• The Primeagen Twitch
• The Primeagen Instagram
• ThePrimeTime
• Prime
• Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon
• Stitzel-Weller Distillery
• Pappy Van Winkle
• Bubbalicious
• W.L. Weller Antique
• Windows
• Apple
• Xbox
• Twitter
• Google
• Oracle
• React
• Svelte
• HashiCorp
• David Heinemeier Hansson
• Warren Buffering
• Rust
• Voodoo Doughnut
• Node JS
• Bun
• ChatGPT
• Linux
• Vite
• Astro
• Netflix
• The Dvorak Keyboard
• Amazon
• Stadia

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner 
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd 

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In this special International Whiskey Day episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris. 

They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich's journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha. 

The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing. 

The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special
• (00:48) - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte
• (01:28) - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love
• (02:40) - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure
• (03:59) - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience
• (07:29) - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints
• (10:34) - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond
• (11:57) - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More
• (24:51) - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools
• (27:40) - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate
• (30:29) - The Developer's Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience
• (31:17) - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build
• (33:11) - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities
• (34:24) - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use
• (40:34) - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite
• (50:03) - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions
• (56:54) - The Global Developer Conference Scene
• (59:18) - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion

Links

• Rich Harris: https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris 
• Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ 

Connect with our hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd 

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf 
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• Whiskey Web and Whatnot: https://whiskey.fm 

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This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey, wings, and web development—naturally. They taste-test Sweetens Cove Kennessee, reminisce about failed food challenges, and discuss whether HTML and Markdown qualify as programming languages. They also discuss site optimization woes, Astro troubleshooting, and the chaos of parenting while debugging.

In this episode:

• (00:00) – Intro
• (01:17) – Whiskey rating and review: Sweetens Cove Kennessee
• (11:46) – Is HTML a programming language?
• (13:47) – 200 episodes and debugging Astro
• (17:56) – Ember projects and developer nostalgia
• (20:10) – Playing with AI inside Ember
• (23:37) – What’s the right AI stack for web development today?
• (28:29) – Are AI builder tools worth the hype?
• (32:11) – Warp 2.0
• (33:25) – Chuck’s hot take: why am I assembling my own dinner?
• (38:15) – Robbie's sushi realizations
• (38:52) – Chuck’s moving status and life update
• (43:04) – Robbie’s parenting update
• (45:30) – Robbie gets back to the gym (sort of)

Links

• Sweetens Cove Kennessee: https://sweetenscovespirits.com/
• It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia
• Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/
• Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com/
• George Dickel: https://www.georgedickel.com/
• Belle Meade: https://www.bellemeadebourbon.com/
• Buffalo Trace: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/
• Arrested Development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_Development
• JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
• PHP: https://www.php.net/
• C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)
• Markdown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown
• Friday Deployment: https://fridaydeployment.co/
• Astro: https://astro.build/
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/
• Discord: https://discord.com
• jQuery: https://jquery.com/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• Vite: https://vite.dev/
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com
• Claude: https://claude.ai
• Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• Cline: https://cline.bot/
• GitHub: https://github.com
• Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/
• Bolt: https://bolt.new/
• Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
• Replit: https://replit.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Jordan Walke: https://x.com/jordwalke
• Figma: https://www.figma.com/
• Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
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This week, Robbie and special guest co-host Adam Argyle talk about life after layoffs, the myth of job security at big tech companies, and what it really means to build meaningful things on the web.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (01:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye
• (02:45) - From FAANG to fired: the illusion of stability in Big Tech
• (14:49) - How HTML and CSS are replacing JavaScript, one feature at a time
• (23:13) - Robbie’s role at HashiCorp
• (26:47) - What is AI actually good at?
• (53:30) - Taste, tools, and the art of building with (or without) AI
• (57:32) - Waking and baking
• (58:54) - Robbie on raising twins
• (01:03:05) - Why Robbie left Amazon
• (01:04:25) - Where tech is headed: AI, burnout, and the future of creativity
• (01:09:20) - Plugs

Links

• Chicken Cock: https://chickencockwhiskey.com/
• Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld
• Norlan Glass: https://norlanglass.com/
• Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
• South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park
• Amazon: https://amazon.com
• TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
• Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/
• Shopify: https://www.shopify.com
• Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
• Lady Bird: https://ladybird.org
• Mozilla: https://www.mozilla.org/
• Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/
• Duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/
• Apple: https://apple.com
• Westworld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)
• Dead Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space
• Awwwards: https://www.awwwards.com/
• Vue: https://vuejs.org/
• Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Figma: https://www.figma.com/
• Lodash: https://lodash.com/
• HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Firebase Studio: https://firebase.studio/
• Zed: https://zed.dev/
• NotebookLM: https://notebooklm.google.com/
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai
• Cline: https://cline.bot/
• Deno: https://deno.com/
• Sam Altman: https://x.com/sama
• DeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/
• Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
• Honda Accord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Accord
• Silicon Valley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)
• Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/
• Catch Me If You Can: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_Me_If_You_Can
• Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
• Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
• MySpace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace
• GitHub: https://github.com

Connect with Adam

• Website: https://nerdy.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/argyleink

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
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• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kendall Miller and Rishi Malik about their startup Friday Deployment Spirits, and creating whiskey for developers. They discuss the art of making good whiskey, bourbon vs rye, coding in the age of AI, and much more.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (00:53) - Meet Rishi and Kendall
• (03:01) - Whiskey rating and review: Friday Deployment Generative A Rye
• (21:27) - Hot take: Is HTML a programming language?
• (25:56) - Hot Take: Bourbon or Rye?
• (27:13) - Is deploying on a Friday bad?
• (37:57) - Payment systems, Web3, and blockchain
• (45:44) - The art of making whiskey
• (51:39) - MCP security for the AI age
• (55:40) - What happened to Chartreuse?
• (57:26) - Plugs

Links

• Friday Deployment: https://fridaydeployment.co/
• CTO Lunches: https://ctolunches.com/
• Maybe Don't AI: https://www.maybedont.ai/
• Wolves Whiskey: https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/
• Heaven Hill Distillery: http://heavenhilldistillery.com/
• Angels Envy: https://www.angelsenvy.com/
• Laphroaig: https://www.laphroaig.com/
• Buffalo Trace: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/
• Malort: https://malort.com/
• Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/
• Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg
• Willett: https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/
• Midwinter Night's Dram: https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dram
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Brenne Whiskey: https://www.houseofmalt.co.uk/brand/brenne/
• Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld
• Mad Men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/
• Office Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space
• Stripe: https://stripe.com/
• Privy: https://www.privy.io/
• Coinbase: https://www.coinbase.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Venmo: https://venmo.com/
• Cash App: https://cash.app/
• Laravel: https://laravel.com/
• JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
• jQuery: https://jquery.com/
• Jim Beam: https://www.jimbeam.com/
• Fernet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernet
• Fireball: https://www.fireballwhisky.com/
• Jagermeister: https://us.jagermeister.com/
• Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
• Aviation Gin: https://www.aviationgin.com/
• Ryan Reynolds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds
• Costco: https://www.costco.com/
• Boodles Gin: https://boodlesgin.com/
• Tanqueray: https://www.tanqueray.com/en-row
• The Botanist Gin: https://www.thebotanist.com/

Connect with Kendall

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallamiller/

Connect with Rishi

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishilmalik/

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
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• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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This week, Robbie talks with Typecraft about the chaotic joys of fatherhood, the realities of raising twins, and various dad-related hot takes. They also discuss their tech carries and conference talks, including Typecraft's Vim nerdery and Robbie’s sarcastic ode to underappreciated HTML features.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:05) - Beer selections
• (03:11) - Newborns and parenting
• (07:34) - Robbie's transition to HashiCorp
• (12:11) - Home ownership and the volatile housing market
• (15:19) - Hot Take: tall socks vs ankle socks
• (16:41) - Hot Take: New Balance vs Nike
• (17:29) - Hot Take: gas vs charcoal grills
• (18:41) - Efficient scheduling as parents
• (20:09) - Education costs
• (23:24) - Hot Take: parking forward vs backward
• (24:13) - Hot Take: baseball vs football
• (25:59) - The real point of golf
• (28:39) - The chaotic joys of parenting
• (33:05) - Big Sky Dev Con and other confs
• (34:55) - Typecraft's Big Sky talk
• (39:26) - Robbie's Big Sky talk
• (42:02) - The state of AI in coding
• (58:46) - Black Mirror and Star Trek
• (01:00:16) - Plugs

Links

• Aaron Francis: https://x.com/aarondfrancis
• Michelob Ultra: https://www.michelobultra.com/
• Sip of Sunshine IPA: https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/
• Apple Watch: https://www.apple.com/watch/
• Claude: https://claude.ai
• Amazon: https://amazon.com
• HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
• IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
• Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• PHP: https://www.php.net/
• Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/
• Target: https://www.target.com/
• New Balance: https://www.newbalance.com/
• Nike: https://www.nike.com/
• Big Green Egg: https://biggreenegg.com/
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Rails World: https://rubyonrails.org/world/
• Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
• Vim: https://www.vim.org/
• Robert Beene: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beene/
• Teladoc: https://www.teladochealth.com/
• Typecraft on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev
• Google: https://google.com
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com
• ART19: https://art19.com/
• Gamma: http://gamma.app/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
• Astro: https://astro.build/
• Neovim: https://neovim.io/
• Avante: https://github.com/yetone/avante.nvim
• Claude Code: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code
• Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com
• React: https://react.dev/
• DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/
• Black Mirror: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/
• Star Trek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek

Connect with Typecraft

• Website: https://typecraft.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
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This week, Robbie and Chuck review Barrell Craft Spirits' Cranky Kong, and talk about the AI boom, how senior devs are (or aren’t) using it, and what the future of software jobs might look like. They also discuss the rise of "celebrity developers", job market shifts, real estate economics, and parenting twins.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (01:20) - Whiskey rating & review: Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release "Cranky Kong" Rye Whiskey
• (07:28) - The Taco Bell Cantina Challenge
• (10:51) - Claude 4, Windsurf, and the AI arms race
• (13:50) - Will AI kill the joy of coding?
• (16:18) - Monorepos and missing changelogs
• (20:27) - Prompting vs programming
• (21:53) - UBI, real estate, and a broken system
• (27:48) - The evolving world of celebrity developers
• (38:46) - OpenAI’s new device and the future of screens
• (41:49) - Parenting and newborn chaos
• (49:51) - Chuck's move and studio setup
• (53:22) - TV picks and recommendations

Links

• Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release "Cranky Kong" Rye Whiskey: https://www.barrellbourbon.com/
• Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/
• Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/
• Chick-fil-A: https://www.chick-fil-a.com/
• White Castle: https://www.whitecastle.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai
• Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com
• Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
• Vite: https://vite.dev/
• Zach Lloyd's LinkedIn post about AI: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachlloyd_anyone-else-having-a-hard-time-getting-their-activity-7333511252666662913-RK7g/
• DHH - Coding should be a vibe!: https://world.hey.com/dhh/coding-should-be-a-vibe-50908f49
• Astro: https://astro.build/
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/
• Starlight Tailwind: https://github.com/withastro/starlight/tree/main/examples/tailwind
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• GitHub: https://github.com
• Sam Altman: https://x.com/sama
• WALL-E: https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-280395a4-d5ef-4dd0-bd09-d91c31593d3d
• Idiocracy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
• Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/
• Amazon: https://amazon.com
• Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg
• PHP: https://www.php.net/
• Laravel: https://laravel.com/
• Maserati: https://www.maserati.com/
• Honda: https://automobiles.honda.com/
• OpenAI's new screenless device: https://www.theverge.com/news/672357/openai-ai-device-sam-altman-jony-ive
• Jony Ive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive
• Syntax: https://syntax.fm
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Rodecaster Pro: https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro
• Electro-Voice RE20: https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/
• 13 Reasons Why: https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470
• Dan Abramov: https://danabra.mov/
• HBO: https://www.max.com/
• The White Lotus: https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus
• Ryan Reynolds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds
• Mint Mobile: https://www.mintmobile.com/
• Apple TV+: https://tv.apple.com/
• The Last of Us: https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us
• The Handmaid's Tale: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale
• Grey's Anatomy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/
• NCIS: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/
• Mark Harmon: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/
• Law & Order: SVU: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203259/

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

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This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about the unintended chaos of “move fast and break things” in both software and startups. From Riverside glitches to Tesla’s overengineered wipers, they explore how updates can derail otherwise stable experiences. They unpack the economics of getting laid off, the pressure to build a personal brand in tech, and the strange fate of dev tools. Plus, Robbie shares his latest app ideas.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:27) - Whiskey rating and review: Old Grand-Dad 16 Year Straight Bourbon Whiskey
• (13:27) - When updates break what worked
• (20:21) - Are devs prioritizing personal brands?
• (23:13) - The strange economics of getting laid off
• (28:39) - Is GitLab trash?
• (30:25) - Robbie’s ADHD app and vibe coding plans
• (34:05) - Debt, 401k, and emergency funds
• (35:30) - Prepping for Big Sky Dev Con
• (38:26) - UPS shipping woes
• (44:10) - React Miami and difficulties taking a podcast on the road
• (48:58) - Whiskey + Girl Scout cookies (and other pairings)
• (54:05) - Should open source have a franchise model?
• (55:28) - Work, paternity leave, and the IBM acquisition
• (57:15) - Tesla shopping for a family of five
• (61:08) - Movies and TV

Links

• Old Grand-Dad: https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon
• Wild Turkey: https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/
• Riverside: https://riverside.fm/
• Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/
• Arc: https://arc.net/
• Silicon Valley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)
• Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
• Shark Tank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank
• GitHub: https://github.com
• Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
• Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
• Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
• Deno: https://deno.com/
• Node: https://nodejs.org/
• GitLab: https://gitlab.com/
• Bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/
• Fresca: https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda
• Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai
• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
• Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/
• HTMX: https://htmx.org/
• Carson Gross: https://x.com/htmx_org/
• Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/
• UPS: https://www.ups.com
• Amazon: https://amazon.com
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/
• Jason Lengstorf: https://x.com/jlengstorf
• Web Dev Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M
• Mux: https://www.mux.com/
• Aaron Francis: https://x.com/aarondfrancis
• Terminal Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/
• Syntax: https://syntax.fm
• Sentry: https://Sentry.io/
• David Cramer: https://x.com/zeeg
• Girl Scouts: https://www.girlscouts.org/
• Carlyle House: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House
• Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
• Whiskey Library: https://mwlpdx.com/
• Jack Rose: https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/
• Gumroad: https://gumroad.com
• Supabase: https://supabase.com/
• McDonald's: https://www.mcdonalds.com/
• HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
• IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
• Model X: https://www.tesla.com/modelx
• Elon Musk: https://x.com/elonmusk
• Rivian: https://rivian.com/
• Why Women Kill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Women_Kill
• Lucy Liu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Liu
• American Psycho: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)
• Paramount Plus: https://www.paramountplus.com/
• Yellowstone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_(American_TV_series)
• 1883: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_(TV_series)
• Faith Hill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hill
• Tim McGraw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McGraw
• Game of Thrones: https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
• Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Marc Backes about Vue vs. React, work-life balance, and the realities of messy codebases. They also sip an Evan Williams Single Barrel, debate inbox zero, and discuss Marc’s adventures in coffee roasting and pilot training.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (01:45) - Whiskey review and rating: Evan Williams Single Barrel
• (09:03) - Hot Take: Inferred types vs explicit types
• (10:04) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS
• (10:59) - Hot Take: Git Rebase vs Git Merge
• (11:27) - Nested ternaries?
• (15:58) - Real code vs ideal code
• (21:43) - Why work/life balance matters
• (30:28) - Why Marc chose Vue over React
• (31:19) - Ryan Reynolds speaking at Post/Con
• (32:40) - Render Atlanta and upcoming conferences
• (33:48) - Marc's connection to Mexico
• (34:54) - Discussing different foods
• (37:09) - Marc's inbox zero strategy
• (40:26) - Learning to fly
• (44:06) - Roasting coffee as a hobby
• (46:13) - Personal branding and standing out
• (51:19) - Plugs

Links

• Evan Williams Single Barrel: https://evanwilliams.com/single-barrel
• Vue: https://vuejs.org/
• Nuxt: https://nuxt.com/
• Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/
• Nintendo: https://www.nintendo.com/
• Switch 2: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/
• Double Double Oaked Woodford: https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/
• Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• jQuery: https://jquery.com/
• Ryan Reynolds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds
• Post Con: https://postcon.postman.com/
• Aviation Gin: https://www.aviationgin.com/
• Mint Mobile: https://www.mintmobile.com/
• Render Conf: https://www.renderatl.com/
• Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/
• Marc Backes - Achieving Inbox Zero: https://marc.dev/blog/inbox-zero
• Superhuman: https://superhuman.com/
• Vim: https://www.vim.org/
• Vue: https://vuejs.org/
• Vite: https://vite.dev/
• Terminal Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/
• Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/
• Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com/
• Kelly Vaughn: https://x.com/kvlly

Connect with Marc

• Website: https://marc.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/themarcba

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

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• Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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This week, live from React Miami, Chuck, and special guest co-host Aaron Francis, talk with Bree Hall about React styling strategies, Tailwind CSS, and whether you should learn fundamentals before frameworks (spoiler: it depends). They explore the evolution of Next.js, the importance of developer momentum, and how to break into tech in today’s landscape.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:11) - Rum rating and review: Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs
• (07:25) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS
• (12:54) - Bree's React Miami talk: Styles & SASSy
• (15:16) - Has Tailwind made CSS too easy?
• (17:47) - Hot Take: Why you don't need to learn CSS or PHP before jumping into Tailwind or Laravel
• (23:34) - Bree's journey into tech
• (26:49) - The strengths and weaknesses of React
• (27:29) - Where does React end and Next.js begin?
• (31:24) - Why Astro is great
• (33:04) - Using the tools that work for you
• (36:38) - Life at HubSpot
• (39:45) - Bree's favorite food spots
• (44:48) - Theme parks and tech
• (47:10) - Parenting in the internet age
• (52:06) - If not in tech, what would Bree do instead?
• (53:52) - Plugs

Links

• Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs: https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/
• Bacardi: https://www.bacardi.com/
• Flor De Cana 18: https://www.flordecana.com/
• Captain Morgan: https://www.captainmorgan.com/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Emotion: https://emotion.sh/
• Vanilla Extract: https://vanilla-extract.style/
• SQLite: https://www.sqlite.org/
• Bootstrap: https://getbootstrap.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Laravel: https://laravel.com/
• jQuery: https://jquery.com/
• Photoshop: https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop
• Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
• Angular: https://angular.dev/
• Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Astro: https://astro.build/
• Vite: https://vite.dev/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• Neon: https://neon.tech/
• Web Dev Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M
• 4 hours to build an e-commerce app — Web Dev Challenge S1E9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpQQxD8vc4
• Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• HubSpot: https://hubspot.com
• GitHub: https://github.com
• Ichi Koroshi Ramen: https://www.instagram.com/ichikoroshi/
• Disney World: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/
• Lego: https://lego.com
• Boston Dynamics: https://bostondynamics.com/
• Universal: https://www.universalorlando.com/
• Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
• Screencasting.com: https://screencasting.com

Connect with Bree

• Website: https://www.bytesofbree.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/bytesofbree

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

Subscribe and stay in touch

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
• Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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