Grant Cameron joins Whitley for a surprising discussion about people who remember flying UFOs. And before you dismiss this out of hand, please know that one of them is an Air Force officer who flew F-16, and another flew 737s for an airline. But the discussion goes far beyond the simple idea that people might sit down in a UFO and be taught to fly it. What is happening is far, far different from conventional assumptions about what is involved in piloting aircraft.

In the third half hour, the discussion veers into whether or not the U.S. and other powers may actually have intact UFOs, and how they might be experimenting with flying them.

Whitley and Grant, both with their long experience in the field, work together like two musicians playing a very surprising duet in this wonderful and information filled edition of Dreamland.

And don’t miss Grant’s return to our subscriber video meetings! He is a great guest and will be ready to answer your deepest questions about piloting a UFO!

Grant’s YouTube channel is Grant Cameron Whitehouse UFOs. To get his terrific book, click here.

Whitley's Dreamland page for this and other great interviews.

https://www.unknowncountry.com/podcasts/dreamland/