Who Runs This Park

This episode takes us to Bryce Canyon National Park in Southern Utah, home to the world’s largest concentration of hoodoos—towering, otherworldly rock formations sculpted by millions of years of erosion. Bryce Canyon’s breathtaking amphitheaters, vivid red and orange cliffs, and pristine dark skies make it a treasure of the National Park system.

We’re joined by Jim Ireland, the park’s superintendent since 2021. With nearly 30 years of experience in the National Park Service, Jim’s journey began with a youth internship at Petrified Forest National Park during high school and has taken him to parks across the country, including Natural Bridges, Kenai Fjords, and Timpanogos Cave. A Bevinetto Fellow and former state coordinator for Utah’s 13 national parks, Jim brings a wealth of knowledge and passion for public lands to his current role.

In this episode, Jim reflects on his career, from his early days as a GS-1 federal employee to moving around the country to work at different parks. He shares insights into Bryce Canyon’s unique geology, the park’s world-class stargazing programs, and its growing offerings, like expanding the biking trail and adding cross-country skiing. We also explore his personal side, including building a camper van with his son, his favorite hikes, and his love for old-fashioned sanded lemon drops—a must-have desert hiking snack.

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Tim Beissinger and Renee Miller, the dynamic duo behind the social media phenomenon “The Thruhikers,” join Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts Edition. With over 2 million TikTok followers and 380K on Instagram, Tim and Renee have captivated audiences with their adventures, expertise, and humor.

In this episode, we explore their incredible journey, from thruhiking the Pacific Crest Trail to designing their own trail routes like the Pacific Northwest Circuit. We talk about their athletic evolution, from marathons, to IRONMANS to thruhiking to their new interest of trail running. We also learn about their process of writing and publishing their book, Thruhikers: A Guide to Life on the Trail. They share behind-the-scenes stories from their viral social media posts, like dehydrating rice and the controversy of hiking with minimal gear.

Tim and Renee’s unique approach to adventure includes meticulously planning their trips—like spending two months in a Wisconsin cabin dehydrating food for the PCT—and embracing the unpredictability of life on the trail. This episode is packed with inspiration, practical tips for thruhiking, and a peek into how they balance their love for engineering with their adventurous lifestyle. Whether you’re a seasoned adventurer or a newbie to the outdoors, Tim and Renee’s story will inspire you to dream big, explore boldly, and live simply.

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This episode takes us to White Sands National Park in Southern New Mexico, home to the world’s largest gypsum dune field. The brilliant white sands form a stunning landscape shaped by both nature and history, offering a glimpse into the unique ecosystems and cultural heritage of the border region. White Sands, once a National Monument, became a National Park in 2019, marking an exciting chapter in its long history.

We’re joined by Marie Frias Sauter, the park’s superintendent since 2012. Marie’s journey is as dynamic as the dunes she oversees. Growing up as a dual citizen in Mexico City, her early fascination with geography and cartography led her to study at the University of Georgia, where she witnessed the transformation of traditional map-making into modern GIS technology. Over her career, Marie has lent her expertise to parks across the country, bringing her passion for preservation and innovation to every role.

In this episode, Marie shares her insights on managing a park with deep ties to both the Department of Defense and its sister park in Mexico, the evolving science of the gypsum dunes, and the park’s soon addition—the Ice Age Trail. She also discusses the discovery of ancient trackways, the thrill of hiking and sledding down the dunes, and the challenges of climate change, including the potential loss of wet dune systems as water tables decline.

Join us as we explore Marie’s extraordinary career, the vibrant culture of the borderlands, and the unique wonders of White Sands National Park.

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Kenzie Smith, Christian Outdoor Content Creator, Retreat Host, and Podcast Creator, joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts. Kenzie is the creative force behind My Valley His Victory, a podcast exploring faith, outdoor adventures, and building authentic community. A self-taught outdoorswoman, Kenzie is passionate about showing that it's never too late to learn outdoor skills—whether that's backpacking, skiing, or overlanding—and proving that adventure can be a pathway to connection and spiritual growth.

In this episode, Kenzie shares how being laid off turned out to be a blessing, sparking her journey into content creation and her mission to build a faith-centered outdoor community. From working in Alaska after college to hosting transformative women’s retreats in Colorado, Kenzie’s story is one of resilience and passion. We dive into her recent completion of the iconic John Muir Trail, her favorite annual event, The Highlander, and her experience as a former college athlete finding solace and purpose in the outdoors.

Kenzie’s Instagram community is a testament to her belief in the power of shared adventures. You’ll leave this episode inspired to pursue your own outdoor journey, embrace new challenges, and maybe even plan your next big hike. Whether you’re a seasoned adventurer or just starting out, Kenzie’s story will resonate with anyone longing to find their place in the wild. 

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Erin Sprague, CEO of Protect Our Winters (POW), joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts. POW is the outdoor movement driving climate action, fueled by the world’s most influential athletes, artists, and brands. With Erin at the helm—an intelligent, passionate, and adventurous leader—POW is tackling the climate crisis through transformative policy solutions and grassroots advocacy.

In this episode, we dive into the heart of POW and the remarkable journey of Erin herself. For Erin, national parks laid the foundation for her love of the outdoors—she even got married in Yosemite. Her career is a testament to bold pivots: from finance to the outdoor industry to climate advocacy, she has embraced a life of purpose and adventure. From completing a four-month bike race in Africa to being the youngest woman to run a marathon on every continent, Erin now pursues her goal of running a marathon in all 50 states.

We geek out over Erin’s experiences at Specialized and Aspen Skiing Company, including Aspen’s legendary powder day policy. And as we unpack POW’s work, Erin explains why imperfect advocacy is key to tackling the climate crisis, how the athlete ambassador model is driving impact, and why disrupting the status quo is POW’s biggest challenge.

This episode will leave you inspired to join the movement, better informed about the climate crisis, and ready to channel your love of the outdoors into meaningful action.You can follow Who Runs This Park on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook or YouTube, can email us at [email protected] or check us out online at whorunsthispark.com. 

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A special in-person episode, recorded at the National Park Friends Alliance Fall Meeting, featuring Yosemite Conservancy President & CEO Frank Dean and Yosemite National Park Superintendent Cicely Muldoon. Frank and Cicely provide a unique moment for Who Runs This Park by showcasing the incredible partnership between Yosemite and the Yosemite Conservancy, offering insights into the vital relationships between national parks and their friends groups.

This fun and laughter-filled conversation takes you behind the scenes of some fascinating stories, including the origins of the Starbucks in Yosemite Valley. We discuss the evolving and improving relationship between Yosemite and climbers (timely, as it's Rocktober!), the challenges and rewards of managing a park with over 800 miles of trails—including the iconic John Muir Trail (JMT) and Pacific Crest Trail (PCT)—and the significance of Yosemite as the birthplace of the conservation movement, where "it all began" for the National Park Service.

We also explore the power of leading with empathy and humor, reflect on Cicely's 40 years of service with the Park Service, and reminisce about Frank and Cicely’s friendship, which began nearly 35 years ago during the 1989 Exxon Valdez Oil Spill in Alaska.

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Sandy Colhoun, National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS) President, joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts. NOLS, built on the vision that wilderness is the great equalizer, stands as THE leader in outdoor education—a nonprofit Maddie has been captivated by since taking her first Wilderness First Aid Course in 2022, followed by an unforgettable backcountry skiing adventure in Japan on a NOLS alumni course. You can tell in the interview, Maddie is beyond excited to be talking with Sandy.  In this episode, Sandy shares his own life adventures, from biking through the Himalayas to ski patrolling in Park City, while diving deeper into the mission and vision of NOLS. He reflects on the idea that life happens at the crux of opportunity and preparation, emphasizing the power of taking leaps of faith and embracing learning. Sandy also touches on the unique role NOLS plays in training programs for both the Navy and astronauts, highlights the concept of Expedition Behavior, and discusses how national parks and public lands have shaped NOLS and his own life. This is not an episode you’ll want to miss!
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This episode spotlights Gateway Arch National Park in St. Louis, Missouri, through the eyes of its superintendent, Jeremy Sweat. Known for its iconic 630-foot monument, Gateway Arch National Park commemorates America’s westward expansion and serves as a testament to the ingenuity and perseverance of its creators. Visitors can explore the story of the Arch's construction—one that took more than three decades to secure funding for—and the complex history of the surrounding area, including the St. Louis interstate history and the historic Old Courthouse.
Jeremy shares his journey to becoming superintendent, something he uniquely set his mind on at a young age. Learn about the largest public-private partnership in national park history, fascinating tidbits about the Arch's tram system, and even the mock trials that take place in the park’s Old Courthouse. Plus, hear about the thrill of throwing out a first pitch at a Cardinals game and how security has become a top priority in managing this national treasure.
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Who Runs This Park is hosted and produced by Maddie Pellman, with music by Danielle Bees.

Collyn “Doc” Nielsen, host of Hiker Trash Radio podcast, joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park for a unique episode. Together they highlight noteworthy moments from each of their podcasts. Maddie highlights conversations with the Grand Teton National Park Superintendent, Lake Clark National Park & Preserve Superintendent, and the Kobuk Valley National Park Superintendent and why these have been some of her favorite conversations thus far. Doc covers an exceptional expeditionist, an unbelievably thrilling finish to the world’s toughest race, and an epic cyclist. You don’t want to miss this episode. 
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This episode highlights Congaree National Park in South Carolina through the perspective of its superintendent, Greg Hauburger. Known for preserving the largest tract of old-growth bottomland hardwood forest in the southeastern United States, Congaree National Park boasts a rich array of biodiversity. Visitors will find towering trees—some of the tallest in the eastern U.S.—and a variety of wildlife, including river otters, bobcats, and alligators. The Congaree River flows through the park, and a scenic boardwalk trail winds through its swamp-like environment for visitors to enjoy. Greg, who has served as superintendent since 2022, offers listeners an iconic 24-hour itinerary in Congaree, dispels myths about the park, discusses the unique floodplain ecosystem, and shares about restoration efforts to reintroduce the endangered Red-cockaded Woodpecker. He even provides insight into the fun South Carolina Pimento Cheese Passport. You can follow Who Runs This Park on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook or YouTube, can email us at [email protected] or check us out online at whorunsthispark.com.  Sign up for the Who Runs This Park’s newsletter at linktr.ee/whorunsthispark.  Who Runs This Park, presented by ExpertVoice, is hosted and produced by Maddie Pellman, with music by Danielle Bees.