WHOLE: The Podcast

WHOLE: The Podcast

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  • The Art of Getting Go: How to Become the Real You

    In this solo episode of WHOLE: The Podcast, Christabel Heasman-Cossins explores the psychology of honesty, identity and letting go — and shares the personal story that led to the creation of the WHOLE Framework.

    What happens when the life you’ve built no longer feels aligned with who you are becoming?

    Through reflections on performance, exhaustion, purpose, motivation and self-identity, this episode explores the tension between external success and meaningful living, and why so many people remain stuck in lives, careers or patterns they have quietly outgrown.

    Christabel discusses:

    • the fear of letting go of old identities
    • performative success and external validation
    • meaning, purpose and intrinsic motivation
    • why change can feel psychologically threatening
    • the importance of honesty and self-inquiry
    • how the WHOLE Framework was born

    This episode is for anyone who feels stagnant, disconnected, creatively dulled or quietly aware that something in their life no longer fits.

    The WHOLE Framework:

    W — What

    H — Honesty

    O — Ownership

    L — Live It

    E — Evolution

    Explore more:

    wholeframework.com

    Follow:

    @christabelsvoice

    23 min
  • The Psychology of Style: Identity, Confidence and Tailoring | Gresham Blake

    What does it mean to truly express who you are?

    In this conversation, I sit down with tailoring duo, Gresham and Fal Blake to explore something that, on the surface, looks like tailoring, but very quickly reveals itself to be something much deeper.

    Because this isn’t just about style. What struck me in this conversation is that tailoring is not just about clothing, it’s about understanding people.

    Not in an abstract or theoretical way, but in a very real, intuitive sense. It involves reading someone, getting a feel for who they are. It is about understanding how they want to move through the world, and how they want to feel when they step into a room. There is psychology embedded in the process.

    We also talk about risk, instinct and the kind of self-belief it takes to build something from nothing, and the absolute authenticity that directs it. We also discuss the 'turning point'. The moment in a life when a decision is made to turn towards greatness, rather than towards what may be immeasurably easier.

    There’s a moment in the conversation where Gresham describes himself as an “extremist”, someone who felt they would either succeed completely or fail completely. What’s interesting is the evolution of that mindset over time: the movement from extremes into something more nuanced. More integrated.

    That, to me, is where this conversation really lives. Not just in style, but in evolution. The way we present ourselves to the world is so much part of who we are. It is no surprise that this duo present

    In how we become.

    What We Explore
    • Why what you wear is not superficial—it’s an expression of identity
    • The idea that tailoring is less about appearance and more about how you feel
    • The parallels between tailoring and psychology: reading people, understanding values, building trust
    • The role of collaboration in creative work—and in self-expression
    • Risk-taking, instinct, and the reality of building something without certainty
    • The tension between freedom and security in creative lives
    • How identity evolves over time—and what it means to move beyond extremes
    • The shifting landscape of tailoring, particularly for women, and what that reflects culturally
    • Why authenticity—rather than trend—is the only sustainable foundation for style

    We often think of clothing as something external. Something aesthetic. Something separate from who we are.

    But what this conversation reveals is that it’s anything but.

    When what you wear aligns with who you are, something shifts. There’s a sense of ease. Of confidence. Of coherence.

    And when it doesn’t, we feel it.

    This episode is really an exploration of that alignment—and what it takes to get there.

    Takeaways:

    • The act of donning a bespoke suit instills confidence, altering one's posture and demeanor.
    • Tailoring transcends mere fabric manipulation; it embodies elements of psychology and self-identity.
    • The bespoke tailoring process necessitates a profound understanding of the client's personality and preferences.
    • In recent years, societal shifts have led to a greater acceptance of women wearing tailored suits in professional settings.
    • The evolution of tailoring reflects broader fashion trends, yet authenticity remains paramount in personal expression.
    • A tailored suit serves not only as clothing but as a vehicle for self-expression and personal empowerment.

    Links referenced in this episode:

    • greshamblake.com
    • wholecoaching.co.uk

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Marks and Spencer
    • Vogue
    • Gresham Blake
    • Indian Summer
    • BBC Radio 1

    45 min
  • The Importance of Values in Purpose, Meaning and Direction | WHOLE: Unpacked

    In this WHOLE Unpacked episode, I explore one of the most fundamental drivers of a meaningful life: values.

    If you’ve ever felt unsure about what you want, disconnected from your current path, or lacking a sense of purpose, this episode will help you understand why.

    I break down:

    • What values are and how they differ from goals
    • How values shape behaviour and decision-making
    • Why values conflict—and why that’s part of being human
    • How to identify your own core values
    • How meaning emerges from living in alignment with them

    This episode is about clarity, direction, and building a life that actually reflects what matters to you.

    Takeaways:

    • Values serve as the organizing principles that guide our behavior and decision-making processes.
    • Identifying and clarifying one’s values is essential for constructing a meaningful and purposeful life.
    • The distinction between values and goals is crucial; values represent directions rather than fixed destinations.
    • A life devoid of values risks becoming reactive, lacking direction, and driven by basic survival instincts.
    • Intrinsic motivation arises from engaging in activities that align with our true values, as opposed to external pressures.
    • Awareness of one’s values allows for personal growth and the pursuit of a fulfilling life aligned with what truly matters.

    NB: In a section of the podcast the goal was mistakenly used in place of values. This was done in error. Any discussion of universality and benevolence is in relation to values, not goals.

    Links referenced in this episode:

    • wholecoaching.co.uk
    • An Overview of the Schwartz Theory of Basic Values:

    https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1116&context=orpc

    • Self Determination Theory

    https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/2000_RyanDeci_SDT.pdf

    22 min
  • The Lie That You’re “Too Old” to Start Again | WHOLE: Unpacked

    We’re often told, directly or indirectly, that there’s a point in life where it becomes “too late” to start again.

    In this episode, I explore where that belief comes from, how it shapes the way we see ourselves, and why it doesn’t actually hold up.

    From real-life examples to psychological ideas like self-stories and identity, I look at how this narrative forms—and why everyday life continually contradicts it.

    Because the evidence is all around us: people begin again, change direction, and pursue meaningful paths at every stage of life.

    The question isn’t whether it’s too late.

    It’s whether you’ve been led to believe that it is.

    • personal growth
    • career change
    • midlife change
    • starting over
    • self development
    • mindset
    • ageism
    • identity
    • motivation
    • life purpose
    • psychological growth
    • reinvention
    • meaning and purpose
    • change your life
    • self belief

    Takeaways:

    • The pervasive belief that individuals become irrelevant at a certain age is fundamentally flawed.
    • There are numerous examples of individuals who successfully embarked on new careers later in life.
    • The midlife phase often presents an ideal opportunity for personal and professional reinvention.
    • Motivation can wane during challenging times, but establishing a conducive environment can help sustain focus.
    • Self-stories formed in youth can limit perceptions of potential, yet they can be reexamined and transformed.
    • Understanding one’s core values is essential in guiding life changes and new endeavors.

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Whole
    • Whole coaching.co.uk
    • Lila Ann Gray
    • Tina Technotic
    • Tina woods

    23 min
  • Raving at 60 — and Rethinking Midlife: Tina Woods (aka Tina Technotic)

    Takeaways:

    • The importance of human connection in modern life has diminished due to technology, necessitating a return to community engagement.
    • Longevity is not only a biological concern but is also deeply intertwined with meaning and purpose in life.
    • Music and dance serve as primal forms of human expression that foster connection and well-being across all ages.
    • Engaging in activities that bring joy and foster relationships is crucial for mental and physical health as one ages.

    Links referenced in this episode:

    • whole coaching.co.uk

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Collider Health
    • Longevity Rave
    • Whole Coaching
    • Nike
    • Human Exposome Project
    • Human Genome Project
    • Team GB

    47 min
  • Sally Gunnell OBE: Pressure, Purpose and Life After Gold

    In this episode of WHOLE: The Podcast, Christabel is joined by Olympic gold medallist Sally Gunnell for a powerful conversation on performance, identity, and what it truly means to live with purpose.

    Sally shares what it takes to compete at the highest level, reflecting on pressure, mindset, injury, and the psychological demands of elite sport. But beyond the medals, this episode explores something deeper: what happens when a defining chapter ends, and how you rebuild a sense of meaning, direction, and self.

    Together, they explore the role of mental strength, visualisation, and discipline, as well as the transition from peak performance into a new phase of life. Sally also speaks candidly about women’s health, confidence, and her work empowering others through her platform Life’s Hurdles.

    This is a conversation about more than achievement. It’s about purpose, evolution, and learning how to keep moving forward, aligned with what matters, long after the external markers of success have passed.

    Takeaways:

    • The internal voice of self-doubt can hinder our ability to pursue our goals effectively, highlighting the importance of mental resilience.
    • Sally Gunnell emphasizes the necessity of self-kindness, advocating for individuals to appreciate their worth and capabilities.
    • The transition from an athletic career to post-sport life requires significant adjustment and the establishment of new goals for personal fulfillment.
    • The significance of visualization and mental preparation in achieving peak performance is paramount, particularly in high-pressure situations.
    • Engaging in strength training is essential for maintaining physical health and mobility as one ages, especially for women.
    • Building a supportive community can greatly enhance one's journey toward health and well-being, fostering accountability and shared experiences.

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Sally Gunnell
    • Whole
    • Life's Hurdles
    • BBC
    • Keely Hodgkinson
    • Jason Gardner
    • Dale Garland
    • Steve Greer

    38 min
  • The Art of Being Seen: Matt Lucas on Turning Difference Into Strength

    In this episode, I speak with Matt Lucas, one of the UK’s most recognisable comedians, writers, and performers.

    We explore how early experiences shape identity and how something as difficult as being laughed at can become a powerful creative advantage.

    Matt shares how losing his hair as a child, and being the subject of attention and judgment, led him to develop a unique relationship with performance, not just as a career, but as a way of directing how he is seen.

    We talk about:

    • Turning difference into creative strength
    • Using humour to shape attention and connection
    • The reality of failure - from silence to being booed off stage
    • Why not taking yourself too seriously is essential
    • Navigating public perception and criticism
    • What it really takes to build a lasting creative career

    Matt also shares his honest framework for success:

    Talent, hard work, and luck; and why you need all three

    As well as a powerful insight:

    You can’t rely on just one path, you need more than one way forward

    This is a thoughtful, grounded, and often surprising conversation about resilience, identity, and what it really means to sustain a creative life.

    If you’ve ever felt judged, different, or unsure how to turn your experiences into something meaningful — this episode is for you.

    Takeaways:

    • The podcast discusses how early experiences shape resilience in individuals, particularly in public life.
    • Matt Lucas shares that his alopecia motivated him to pursue acting as a form of self-expression.
    • The hosts explore the significance of authenticity in creative endeavors and the necessity of hard work.
    • Listeners are encouraged to embrace their unique backgrounds and leverage them to fuel their artistic passions.
    • The importance of diversifying one's skill set in the entertainment industry is highlighted throughout the episode.
    • The conversation emphasizes that talent, hard work, and a measure of luck are essential for success in creative fields.

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Arsenal
    • Little Britain
    • Shooting Stars
    • Come Fly With Me
    • Fantasy Football League
    • Doctor Who
    • The Great British Bake Off
    • The Masked Singer
    • Neighbours
    • EastEnders
    • Nespresso

    43 min
  • Omar: Authenticity, Longevity, and The Art of Being One of One

    In this episode, I sit down with the legendary Omar to talk about four decades in music, creativity, resilience, authenticity, and what it really takes to build a lasting career.

    We talk about his 2025 album Brighter the Days, much of which was written during lockdown, and how that period pushed him to adapt by developing his live-streaming setup when touring stopped. Omar reflects on longevity in the music industry, explaining that survival has come from being focused, hard-headed, and committed to making music that feels true to him rather than chasing trends.

    We also discuss his songwriting process, his distinctive approach to basslines and arrangement, and why musicians are so often drawn to his work. He talks about growing up around music, learning multiple instruments from childhood, recording ideas on tape recorders as a teenager, and developing the sonic instincts that shaped his sound.

    The conversation moves into deeper territory too: success, fatherhood, mental resilience, AI in music, health, and legacy. Omar speaks openly about being diagnosed with prostate cancer, why early testing matters, and how fitness and Muay Thai have become part of how he looks after himself physically and mentally.

    Above all, this episode is about staying authentic. Omar’s advice is simple but powerful: work hard, practise your craft, stand out from the crowd, and be fully yourself.

    Key themes from the conversation

    Authenticity and longevity

    Omar repeatedly returns to the idea that his staying power comes from knowing who he is and refusing to be swayed by fashion, trends, or industry pressure.

    Creative process

    He describes songwriting as something that moves through him rather than something he controls mechanically. Some songs arrive quickly; others take years.

    Musicianship

    A big part of the discussion centres on the sophistication of his writing, especially his basslines, arrangements, counterpoint, and groove.

    Adaptability

    During lockdown, he pivoted into streaming and kept performing, which helped him maintain connection and momentum.

    Success on his own terms

    For Omar, success is not yachts or status. It is being able to support his children, keep making music, and continue learning.

    AI and music

    He sees AI as both a leveller and a threat: useful in some contexts, but dangerous when it bypasses human craft and the livelihoods of working creatives.

    Health and discipline

    He speaks candidly about prostate cancer, the importance of PSA testing, and how Muay Thai supports both his wellbeing and his performance stamina.

    Takeaways:

    • This podcast episode delves into the essence of constructing a meaningful existence anchored in core values.
    • I had the privilege of conversing with the illustrious musician Omar, whose impact on British soul is profound.
    • We examined the crucial elements necessary for sustaining a creative life, including discipline and resilience.
    • The discussion emphasized the significance of authenticity and individual identity in one's creative journey.
    • Listeners are encouraged to focus on their unique paths rather than engaging in detrimental comparisons with others.
    • The insights provided in this episode serve as a guide for remaining true to oneself amidst the challenges of creativity.

    Links referenced in this episode:

    • wholecoaching.co.uk
    • omarmusic.co.uk

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Stevie Wonder
    • Angie Stone
    • Erykah Badu
    • Paula
    • India
    • Ari Legacy
    • Honey Larry
    • Incognito
    • Doris
    • Troy
    • Bob
    • Andy
    • Marcia Griffiths
    • Soul to Soul
    • Cristiano Ronaldo
    • EastEnders
    • Danao

    47 min
  • How to Believe You Can: Self-Efficacy, Confidence, and Growth with Dr Laura Ritchie

    In this episode, I speak with Dr Laura Ritchie about what it really takes to believe in yourself enough to begin.

    This conversation is especially for people who feel stuck: people who want to grow, change, create, perform, or move towards something meaningful, but who are held back by fear, self-doubt, low confidence, or the feeling that they are not enough.

    Laura introduces the idea of self-efficacy — the belief that you can do a specific thing — and explains why it is such a vital part of motivation, learning, and achievement. We talk about why some people never begin because the leap from where they are now to where they want to be feels too big, and why the answer is not blind positivity, but learning how to build a path step by step.

    Together, we explore:

    • what self-efficacy really means
    • why confidence is task-specific
    • why wanting something is not always enough on its own
    • how to start when you do not yet know the whole route
    • why practice is about building reliable pathways
    • how to reflect without collapsing into self-criticism
    • how to separate your identity from your performance
    • why growth can unsettle relationships and existing roles
    • how authenticity helps you build a life that is actually yours

    This is a warm, intelligent, and deeply practical conversation for anyone trying to become braver, more grounded, and more fully themselves.

    Dr Laura Ritchie is a chartered psychologist, musician, author, and Professor of Learning and Teaching at the University of Chichester. Her research focuses on psychology, learning, music, and self-efficacy.

    She is the author of Yes, I Can: Learn to Use the Power of Self-Efficacy, exploring how belief in our abilities shapes motivation, achievement, and personal growth.

    Links

    Dr Laura Ritchie

    https://lauraritchie.com

    Explore the WHOLE framework

    https://wholecoaching.co.uk

    self-efficacy

    self belief

    confidence

    personal growth

    psychology

    motivation

    learning

    performance psychology

    authenticity

    mindset

    music psychology

    self development

    Takeaways:

    • Self-efficacy is fundamentally about one's belief in their capability to perform specific tasks, which is crucial for personal growth and achievement.
    • The journey towards accomplishing a goal often requires the visualization of not just the final destination but also the incremental steps necessary to reach it.
    • It's essential to understand that everyone has unique paths, and one must not compare their journey to that of others, as this can lead to discontent.
    • Effective self-reflection and metacognition are vital for recognizing personal growth and understanding one's skills and limitations in various situations.

    45 min
  • The Strange Compulsion to Create | Justin Robertson (Musician, Artist, Author)

    In this episode I speak with artist, author, DJ and broadcaster Justin Robertson, a lifelong creative who has spent more than three decades working across music, visual art and literature.

    Justin has collaborated with artists including the Cocteau Twins, Björk, Noel Gallagher, New Order and Paul Weller, while also developing a distinctive body of work as a writer and painter.

    Our conversation explores the deeper questions behind creativity: whether making art is a choice or a compulsion, how ideas emerge from experience, and what happens to a piece of work once it enters the world and begins to take on a life of its own.

    We talk about philosophy, meaning, the role of curiosity, the strange relationship between chaos and creativity, and why sometimes the most powerful artistic advice is simply to begin — without worrying about the outcome.

    It’s a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about art, curiosity and the human urge to create.

    48 min

About WHOLE: The Podcast

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Achievement is healthiest and most sustainable when it is aligned with meaning, authenticity, values and psychological flexibility. WHOLE: The Podcast explores the stories and psychology behind sustained meaningful achievement, and how people continue evolving despite the inevitable challenges.