This week, Ben and Andrew dive into the (surprisingly?) complex world of calculator apps, analyze how AI is revolutionizing the technical interview, and dissect the emerging “two-tier” economy around AI. What side of the curve does your org fall on?

Then, the conversation goes on site to San Francisco, where host Dan Lines hosts Rob Zuber (CTO, CircleCI) and Tara Hernandez (VP of Dev Productivity at MongoDB) for a discussion of LinearB's 2025 Software Engineering Benchmarks Report.

We unpack the report's surprising findings on the PR lifecycle, project management hygiene, DORA metrics, code quality, and predictability, with key takeaways for optimizing your engineering team's performance.

Be sure to grab your copy of the report to follow along with Dan, Rob & Tara.

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• 2025 Software Engineering Benchmarks Report
• Beyond the DORA Frameworks
• Introducing AI-Powered Code Review with gitStream

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Referenced in today's show:

• "A calculator app? Anyone could make that."
• ‘Two-tier’ AI economy is emerging between startups and corporations, with large organizations falling behind, AWS EMEA chief says
• AI Killed The Tech Interview. Now What? | Kane Narraway 
• New Junior Developers Can’t Actually Code

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