On this episode of Talking Buffalo, Patrick Moran is joined by frenemy and recurring guest Joe From Queens for a discussion on a lot of national media and fans being lower on the prospects of the Buffalo Bills in 2024 than Vegas gambling sites, and a debate if they should be.

Several media outlets, mainly nationally have the Bills pegged to not only fail to win the AFC east for what would be a fifth-consecutive season but to miss the playoffs all together. It's an opinion shared by many and while most Bills fans won't go that far, there seems to be more concern than in recent years. The reality is Vegas and the gambling sites still very much believe in Buffalo, having them among the favorites to win their division, the conference and even the Super Bowl. Josh Allen is also second behind only Patrick Mahomes in MVP betting odds. Internally Patrick is significantly higher on the 2024 Bills than Joe and it leads to some spirited debates.

The guys also have thoughts on the Bills recent signing of Marquez Valdes-Scantling, which again and unsurprisingly leads to disagreements between the two. They also have some thoughts on the Bills 2024 after plenty of time to digest it, should Micah Hyde come back to the Bills or not and much more and much more. Follow Joe on Twitter @BuffaloWins.

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