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The Cyber CMO Confidential is back, and we are starting with our favourite guest, Jennifer Leggio, Chief Strategy Officer at W2 Communications.
Jen’s back on the mic, taking us on her journey from cyber PR pro to CMO extraordinaire to brief, educational COO life. She understands why the brand isn’t just fluff but your secret growth engine. We break down how to talk about “the B-word” with a CFO who only wants more demo requests and explore why branding might just be your most powerful (and misunderstood) sales tool.
You’ll hear about the empathetic sale, how brand boosts pricing power, and why the buyer’s journey looks more like a bow tie than a funnel these days. If you care about brand, pipeline, or just surviving another board meeting, this one’s a must-listen.
01:04 – Guest intro: Jennifer Leggio, CSO at W2 Communications
02:27 – Jen’s path to W2: From cyber PR to CMO to COO and back
04:17 – “Brand is the new demand gen”: What that means
05:40 – The empathetic sale: Qualify out as much as you qualify in
07:31 – Talking about brand with your CEO and CFO
09:00 – Real-life examples of brand influence (Carvana FTW)
11:15 – Demo requests ≠ demand strategy
13:09 – The bow tie journey: Reimagining the funnel
14:48 – Turning brand wins into sales enablement and retention tools
15:14 – Brand = pricing power: The Excedrin analogy
16:06 – Why does a brand build trust and support for go-to-market
17:14 – Brand’s impact on valuation and M&A (Sourcefire story!)
18:55 – Personal brand power and founder-led storytelling
20:53 – Budgeting for brand: “Brandman” and the peanut butter cup
23:02 – Using brand for customer retention and advocacy
25:26 – ABX + brand = targeted impact
Jennifer Leggio is the chief strategy officer at W2 Communications and has been a longtime force in cybersecurity marketing and operations. With nearly 25 years in the game, she’s held leadership roles across the spectrum, VP of Comms, CMO, COO, and built a reputation for driving bold, strategic growth. Known for her sharp storytelling, no-fluff approach, and deep operational chops, Jen has helped scale, rebuild, and position companies for high-impact outcomes.
She’s also a frequent speaker at top industry conferences like DEF CON, RSA, and CyberMarketingCon, and pens columns for SecurityWeek that spotlight the human side of cyber business. Whether building revenue engines or challenging the status quo, Jen brings clarity, candor, and an unwavering focus on what works.
RSAC 2025 Marketers Party
On Sunday, April 27th, join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society for the best pre-RSAC bash. Drinks, Wagyu, and all your GTM besties. 🎟 Get tickets here
CyberMarketingCon 2025 – CFP Open!
📝 CFP closes April 15th!
If you loved this episode, hit that subscribe button and leave us a review! It helps us grow and bring even more incredible guests your way.
📩 Got feedback or want to be on the show? Email us: [email protected]
Follow your hosts on LinkedIn:
👉 Gianna Whitver
👉 Charles Gold
Thanks for tuning in! We'll catch you next time on Cyber CMO Confidential.
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The Cyber CMO Confidential is back, and we are starting with our favourite guest, Jennifer Leggio, Chief Strategy Officer at W2 Communications.
Jen’s back on the mic, taking us on her journey from cyber PR pro to CMO extraordinaire to brief, educational COO life. She understands why the brand isn’t just fluff but your secret growth engine. We break down how to talk about “the B-word” with a CFO who only wants more demo requests and explore why branding might just be your most powerful (and misunderstood) sales tool.
You’ll hear about the empathetic sale, how brand boosts pricing power, and why the buyer’s journey looks more like a bow tie than a funnel these days. If you care about brand, pipeline, or just surviving another board meeting, this one’s a must-listen.
01:04 – Guest intro: Jennifer Leggio, CSO at W2 Communications
02:27 – Jen’s path to W2: From cyber PR to CMO to COO and back
04:17 – “Brand is the new demand gen”: What that means
05:40 – The empathetic sale: Qualify out as much as you qualify in
07:31 – Talking about brand with your CEO and CFO
09:00 – Real-life examples of brand influence (Carvana FTW)
11:15 – Demo requests ≠ demand strategy
13:09 – The bow tie journey: Reimagining the funnel
14:48 – Turning brand wins into sales enablement and retention tools
15:14 – Brand = pricing power: The Excedrin analogy
16:06 – Why does a brand build trust and support for go-to-market
17:14 – Brand’s impact on valuation and M&A (Sourcefire story!)
18:55 – Personal brand power and founder-led storytelling
20:53 – Budgeting for brand: “Brandman” and the peanut butter cup
23:02 – Using brand for customer retention and advocacy
25:26 – ABX + brand = targeted impact
Jennifer Leggio is the chief strategy officer at W2 Communications and has been a longtime force in cybersecurity marketing and operations. With nearly 25 years in the game, she’s held leadership roles across the spectrum, VP of Comms, CMO, COO, and built a reputation for driving bold, strategic growth. Known for her sharp storytelling, no-fluff approach, and deep operational chops, Jen has helped scale, rebuild, and position companies for high-impact outcomes.
She’s also a frequent speaker at top industry conferences like DEF CON, RSA, and CyberMarketingCon, and pens columns for SecurityWeek that spotlight the human side of cyber business. Whether building revenue engines or challenging the status quo, Jen brings clarity, candor, and an unwavering focus on what works.
RSAC 2025 Marketers Party
On Sunday, April 27th, join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society for the best pre-RSAC bash. Drinks, Wagyu, and all your GTM besties. 🎟 Get tickets here
CyberMarketingCon 2025 – CFP Open!
📝 CFP closes April 15th!
If you loved this episode, hit that subscribe button and leave us a review! It helps us grow and bring even more incredible guests your way.
📩 Got feedback or want to be on the show? Email us: [email protected]
Follow your hosts on LinkedIn:
👉 Gianna Whitver
👉 Charles Gold
Thanks for tuning in! We'll catch you next time on Cyber CMO Confidential.
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