The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it.

First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request.

Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out.

They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class.

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