Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Why Does Our Foreign Policy Suck So Bad?


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Getting Curious superstar, Dr. Osamah Khalil, is back for the third installment of our series covering U.S. Foreign Policy from 1945 to 2024. If you haven’t caught those first two installments, no sweat! You can jump in here, or go back and take the whole course from the top - the choice is yours. In this episode, Dr. Khalil paints a picture of what the early days of the Global war on terror looked like from behind the closed doors of the Bush administration. and how many of the policies and political events of the early/mid-2000s perpetuated the ongoing conflict in the Gaza Strip and set the stage for the events of Oct. 7th.


Dr. Osamah Khalil is a historian of U.S. foreign relations and chair of the international relations program at Syracuse University. He’s a frequent media commentator

and contributor for outlets like the Los Angeles Times, NPR, USA Today, PBS Newshour, The Hill, and Al Jazeera.


His new book “A World of Enemies: America’s Wars at Home and Abroad from Kennedy to Biden” is available now.


You can find Osamah on X @Osamah_Khalil. You can find more information about his first book, America’s Dream Palace, here.


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Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com.


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