In this episode of The Flywheel Effect, host Brent Sonnek-Schmelz welcomes Gordon van Zuiden, Ed Gilmore, Eric Crawford, and Matt Bernath for a candid look at what it takes to build, sell, and step away from a custom integration business. Brent and his guests dig into what drives business owners to consider an exit and why timing—both personal and financial—matters when planning for that transition.

Gordon shares how building a strong reputation and brand over decades became key to his successful sale, but also opens up about the challenges of stepping away. Ed reflects on waiting too long to plan and the pressures that come from carrying a business forward without the right systems or support. Eric and Matt stress the value of intentional decision-making, from setting boundaries on a sale to defining what comes next after an exit.

Together, they offer clear lessons for other integrators: start planning early, focus on process and profit, and never underestimate the importance of being intentional about your goals—even when business is running smoothly. Their stories show that a healthy business makes for a healthier exit, and that clarity on the end goal can turn risk into opportunity.