If you’ve ever felt like you can’t fully relax or be yourself around people at church, this episode is for you. Today, we’re talking about why it’s so healthy to have friendships outside your church or youth group...people who see you as you, not “the pastor’s wife.”

Having those outside friendships doesn’t mean you love your church family any less. It just means you’re human, and you need spaces where you can laugh, process, and breathe without feeling like you’re “on” all the time.

In this episode, I’m sharing how my friendships outside the church have helped me feel seen, grounded, and refreshed, and how you can build those kinds of relationships, too.

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