🎙️ HVAC R&D Podcast — Episode 181

Why Most Contractors Think They’re Profitable… But Aren’t with Sam Miles of CFO and More, LLC.

If your business is busy… your trucks are rolling… and money is coming in…

In this episode, Rhydon Atzenhoffer sits down with Sam Miles to break down one of the biggest blind spots in the trades—thinking you’re profitable when you’re actually leaking cash.

Sam works directly with contractors across HVAC, plumbing, and electrical to help them understand their numbers, clean up their financial systems, and build businesses that don’t just generate revenue—but actually create real, sustainable profit.

Together, Rhydon and Sam dig into the gap between revenue, profit, and cash flow, and why so many trades businesses get stuck in the cycle of working harder without truly getting ahead.

This conversation pulls back the curtain on what your numbers are really telling you—and how to start using them as a tool instead of a stress point.

For the #TradeCrew, this is one of those episodes that can fundamentally change how you run your business.

Whether you’re an owner, service manager, or future business leader, this episode will challenge how you think about money, margin, and what “success” actually looks like in the trades.

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🎵 Music credit: Alex Grohl