Why Not Both

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

We all joke about running away to the woods to live out our creative witchy fantasies but musician Zola Jesus actually did it. She spoke with us about the dynamic tension between being an auteur and a collaborator and experimenting with how different locations affect her work. She advocates for living the kind of life that helps you tune into your own creative voice, whatever that might look like for you.

Listen to Zola Jesus' latest work Alive in Cappadocia

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Why Not Both is hosted by ⁠⁠⁠Pam Shaffer⁠⁠⁠ and produced by ⁠⁠⁠Laura Studarus.⁠⁠⁠ The theme music is ⁠⁠⁠Get Down⁠⁠⁠ by Nyxe.

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

Punk rock musician Kathleen Hanna is a feminist icon. From her bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre to her non profit Tees4Togo, she embodies the kind of multipassionate creative energy that inspires us all to use our voices for good. Since our interview, she has written her memoir, Rebel Girl, which you can pre-order now.

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Why Not Both is hosted by ⁠⁠⁠Pam Shaffer⁠⁠⁠ and produced by ⁠⁠⁠Laura Studarus.⁠⁠⁠ The theme music is ⁠⁠⁠Get Down⁠⁠⁠ by Nyxe.

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

This episode features Grammy award winning musician Allison Russell. In this interview, Allison emphasizes the importance of collaboration and community when it comes to leading a creative life. During her Grammy speech, she thanked her colleague and friend Brandi Carlile for opening the door for more diverse folk and American artists, stating that it's "for all of us - all colors, all abilities, all orientations, all gender." We love seeing Allison embody the inclusive ideals she talks about by creating gorgeous music and lifting up those around her.

Listen to Allison Russell's album The Returner

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Why Not Both is hosted by ⁠⁠Pam Shaffer⁠⁠ and produced by ⁠⁠Laura Studarus.⁠⁠ The theme music is ⁠⁠Get Down⁠⁠ by Nyxe.

WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

This episode features musician Julien Baker, a brilliant solo artist and member of the supergroup BoyGenius along with Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. In this interview, Julien talks about how we create stories to make meaning in our lives and how important it is to see queer representation in our often heteronormative media. Julien shows us how listening to other people's stories and sharing your own is the ultimate act of compassionate creativity.

Listen to Julien's latest solo record Little Oblivions

Listen to BoyGenius' album The Record

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Why Not Both is hosted by ⁠Pam Shaffer⁠ and produced by ⁠Laura Studarus.⁠ The theme music is ⁠Get Down⁠ by Nyxe.

WNB Full Circle presents interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

This episode features musician, writer, and podcaster Jensen McRae. In this interview, Jensen described how she navigates through life as a professional creative artist by embracing change and exploring storytelling through her songs. She advocated for having compassion for all the past versions of ourselves as well as the present ones so that we can remain curious to who we may become in the future. Since we spoke, Jensen has put her words into action by releasing her debut album Are You Happy Now and her podcast What We You Thinking. If you ever need a master class in embracing your creativity with self compassion and curiosity, Jensen is your girl.

Listen to Jensen McRae's music

Listen to Jensen's podcast (and read her essays) at What We You Thinking

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Why Not Both is hosted by ⁠Pam Shaffer⁠ and produced by ⁠Laura Studarus.⁠ The theme music is ⁠Get Down⁠ by Nyxe.

WNB Full Circle presents interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

Our first Full Circle episode features Grammy nominated electronic neo-classical musician Ólafur Arnalds, who spoke to us from his hometown of Reykjavik about the importance of slowing down to appreciate the world around you in order to create your best art. In 2020, he released his album Some Kind Of Peace, a meditation on how sometimes our biggest creative landscape lies within our own isolation, and now his piano reworking of that very same album is nominated for a Grammy award. Arnalds advised us to get obsessed with our creative ideas and revisit old ones often. It's clear that his advice has paid off as he continually finds new ways to question his artistic process to find novel paths for musical expression in his own work as well as his new launch of OPIA Community – a traveling music festival, label and community hub.

Listen to Ólafur's music

Some Kind Of Peace original album

Some Kind of Peace piano reworks

For Now I Am Winter

Check out Ólafur's OPIA community

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Why Not Both is hosted by Pam Shaffer and produced by Laura Studarus. The theme music is Get Down by Nyxe.

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus.  Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite chats. Join us as we unravel the secrets of these iconic individuals who have fearlessly pursued various artistic avenues and discovered their true passion.

Listen to the full episode with Lauren Mayberry of CHVRCHES

In this interview clip, Lauren Mayberry of the band CHVRCHES breaks down the importance of creative evolution as well as the inspiration behind the band's most recent album.

Listen to the full episode with Zola Jesus

In this interview clip, musician Zola Jesus discusses how moving back tot the woods where she grew up revitalized her creative practice and how our surroundings influence our creative output.

Listen to the full episode with Kae Tempest

In this interview clip, poet Kae Tempest reminds our listeners that everyone is inherently creative and that we all need to see reflections of our emotions and thoughts in the world of art around us.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus.  Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite chats. Join us as we unravel the secrets of these iconic individuals who have fearlessly pursued various artistic avenues and discovered their true passion.

Listen to the full episode with Harvey Guillen of What We Do In The Shadows

In this interview clip, the iconic actor Harvey Guillen talks about the importance of queer representation in media and how vital it is to be the kind of adult you needed to see in the world when you were a kid. With humor and grace, Harvey tells the story of how he carved out his path in Hollywood and why he feels honored to show up for the under-represented LGBTQ+ communities of color.

Listen to the full episode with Julien Baker

As 1/3 of BoyGenius, musician Julien Baker is making an impact on mainstream culture by centering queer voices and narratives. In this interview, Julien talks about how it felt to come into her own identity and the importance of having relatable narratives for a broader spectrum of people. She discusses how vital it is to continue learning and expanding your horizons as an artist and a person in the world.

Listen to the full episode with Anjimile

Musician Anjimile spoke to us about how it felt to be a queer artist in the world today and why sometimes you have to cut ties with your past in order to embrace your future. They narrated how their journey of self discovery through music led them to creating and embracing community and becoming a critically acclaimed songwriter.

Gain invaluable insights, learn practical tips, and be inspired to embrace your own multi-passionate nature. Subscribe to the Why Not Both Podcast now and immerse yourself in the transformative power of pursuing multiple creative paths.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus.  Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite chats. Join us as we unravel the secrets of these iconic individuals who have fearlessly pursued various artistic avenues and discovered their true passion.

In this captivating interview, David Duchovny, renowned actor and musician, shares his journey of exploring both the silver screen and the music industry, showcasing how embracing diverse creative outlets can unlock hidden talents and bring immense satisfaction amidst moments of self doubt.

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⁠David Duchovny

William Shatner, the legendary actor, writer, and director, takes us on an awe-inspiring adventure, revealing how his ventures in acting, writing, and even music have propelled him towards self-discovery and an unparalleled sense of fulfillment as we chat about the very nature of the universe.

You can find our full interview here:

⁠William Shatner

Electronica maestro Jon Hopkins mesmerizes us with his tale of intertwining passions in music production and visual art. Discover how his multidimensional approach to creativity has not only fueled his success but also enriched his personal growth thru psychedelic therapy.

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⁠Jon Hopkins

Gain invaluable insights, learn practical tips, and be inspired to embrace your own multipassionate nature. Subscribe to the Why Not Both Podcast now and immerse yourself in the transformative power of pursuing multiple creative paths.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by ⁠musician⁠ and ⁠therapist⁠ Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and ⁠photographer⁠ Laura Studarus.  Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite chats. This episode features Devon Gilfillian and Allison Russell, two brilliant artists and activists in Nashville, Tennessee.

You can find their full interviews here:

Devon Gilfillian

Allison Russell

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