Why Not Both

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

Social media has taught us all to be chameleons of sorts, reflecting and refracting our various influences, but Maia Berrin of Pom Pom Squad reflects on how this can make us more introspective artists and human beings. It can be equally joyous to see ourselves reflected in others as it is painful to see ourselves erased from the media landscape, all of which Mia chats about in our interview and sings about on her new album Death Of A Cheerleader. Ultimately, we are all in charge of our own perceptions but it certainly helps to have guiding lights along the way.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

David Duchovny fears that he may be perceived as a dabbler in multiple creative spheres but we see him as an iconic artist who proves that you don't need to be limited to one mode of expression to get your ideas across. Between traveling to the desert to research his latest novel Truly Like Lightning to holing up in the studio pre-Covid era to record his album Gestureland, he shows that you can embody different facets of the universal human range of emotions any way you fancy. By focusing on expression over the traditional trappings of success, he's able to bring us inimitable characters in all the work he produces and we adore him for it.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

After the magical experience of seeing Devon Gilfillian at Newport Folk Festival, we knew that we had to have him on the show. From learning to connect with fans without touring, to chilling with his cat Barry White, he’s had a busy year and a half. Along the way, Devon even recorded cover of Marvin Gaye’s iconic album What's Going On to bring awareness to voter suppression in Tennessee and beyond. The way he sees it, art is here to help you re-evaluate the systems we are all in. And if you have a voice, it’s time to use it.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

Legend tells that Devendra Banhart and his collaborator Noah Georgeson wanted to collaborate on an album for 20 years but it took an earthquake in Japan and a global pandemic to really inspire them to craft their work Refuge. Devendra spoke to the ways in which we can step aside and allow our ideas to guide us, as we are often striving for the beautiful moments in which we can ultimately forget ourselves in music and art. It is inspiring to know that one of the best ways to accept change in the present is to delve both into our future and our past, as Devendra and Noah masterfully did in their work together, and as we did through this magical conversation.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

A long way from her role as Blanca Flores on Orange is the New Black, when writer/actress/general creative badass Laura Gómez left her old home of New York in early 2020, she thought she was going to spend a bit of time in LA working on her new screenplay then find a place to settle down for good. Little did she know that she would find herself in the Dominican Republic where she was born, spending time with her parents after they recovered from the literal plague while crafting a bilingual podcast Baraja Eso to keep her creative mind occupied. Of course, we love her artistic philosophy that personal stories help foster empathy.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

When he's not traveling the world with Mew, it turns out that Jonas Bjerre really likes scoring films and cashing in what he calls his "gift cards of time" by reading books and crafting happy sonic accidents on his modular synths. Getting stuck in one place for all of 2020 also helped him finally make music with his good friend Tobias for their new project Tachys along with several epic music videos. From discussing the finest salty Finnish licorice to deciphering the logic of a post truth world, Jonas leaves no topic unexplored.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

Whether it's home renovations, one's own health, or her latest song idea, Anna of The North is obsessively dedicated to untangling life's riddles. We got to chat about how vital it is to fall in love with the art your making so that others can do so as well while still taking the time to care for yourself as a human being first. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just clear the cobwebs of anxiety away so you can make more space for the happy accidents to come along. 

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

For writer Laurie Penny, the transition from feminist journalist to screenwriter was a bit of a happy accident, as she crash landed in LA shortly before everything shut down. She found herself in a quarantine pod with none other than our podcast host Pam and watched while the show she worked on, The Haunting of Bly Manor, became a hit as she continued to write her manuscript for her upcoming book as Sexual Revolution. As Penny put it, only took "three years, six cities, twelve house moves, a global pandemic, wildfires, riots, marriage, an unexpected excursion into an entirely new career, breakdown and repair, heartache and adventure, love and loss and lots and lots of late-night note-taking on the state of the species" to finish and we can't wait to read it.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

It's not every day that you get to see someone's beloved coffee mug collection, but we expected nothing less when we hopped on Zoom to chat with John Grant at his Reykjavik home. As an artist, he wrestles with the confines of masculinity and the American dream that caused him to relocate to Iceland in the first place while as a person, he enthusiastically delves into the charming and esoteric delights that inspire him. We couldn't be more fortunate as an audience to engage with his narratives as they weave their way through his songs and stories, helping us find compassion for our own victories and failures along the way.

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

It's a rare and beautiful gift to come across an artist like Anjimile, who centers their experience not just their own work but on uplifting the work and sense of identity for those around them as well. As a former English major turned music business student, they learned how to forge a path as an independent musician and now they share that knowledge with their peers in order to empower their fellow artists. Anjimile remarked that they didn't see black queer artists in the media growing up and so it is all the more important to them to create that space for their audience, a powerful sentiment we support in every way.

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