Rafael Behr talks to the Rt Hon. Liam Byrne, Labour MP for Birmingham Hodge Hill & Solihull North, Chair of the Commons Business & Trade Committee, former minister under Blair & Brown, and author of Why Populists Are Winning and How to Beat Them.

They cover:

• The "three chords" of populism — national renewal, nostalgia, and crisis. Liam breaks down the deep emotional structure behind every populist message, from Orbán to Farage.
• Why the economic conditions are ripe —
• The populist media machine
• Why Farage is different
• How the left fights back
• Taking aim at the "selfish minority"
• Why Liam is optimistic — the new generation of MPs who are "entrepreneurial, energetic, super smart, and deeply rooted in their communities.

Link to Liam's book.

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