As Europeans look to boost their security and defense capabilities, there’s an ongoing debate about including Turkey in this discussion. This is raising a number of moral and strategic concerns, especially given the recent arrest of Istanbul Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu and Turkey’s ties to Russia. Ambassador Marc Pierini, a senior fellow at Carnegie Europe and former EU ambassador to Turkey, joins Thanos Davelis to break down why including Ankara in any future plans on European security could prove deeply problematic.

You can read the articles we discuss on our podcast here:

Turkey’s Ambivalence Is a Threat to European Security

Greece unveils 12-year defense plan

Severe storms batter Greek islands for a second day, with Crete hardest hit