In this episode of the Rokman Podcast, I sit down with BJ Stagner — fitness coach, author, church pastor, and all-round deep thinker on discipline, masculinity and fitness.

We get into the real purpose of training, why most men think they’re disciplined when they’re not, and how fitness, faith and responsibility actually overlap more than people think.

We talk CrossFit vs Hyrox, modern masculinity, denial, discipline and the uncomfortable truth about what actually holds people back.

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