Wild Crazy Meaningful Enneagram

Wild Crazy Meaningful Enneagram

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Wild Crazy Meaningful Enneagram episodes

  • WCME 066: The Enneagram and NLP, with Tom Condon

    Please welcome with grace and aplomb

    A guest who is simply the bomb.
    As you will soon see,
    He knows NLP
    And the Enneagram. Welcome, Tom!

    Tom Condon explains how NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) can be used with the Enneagram to help you change your stale patterns.

    • Visual squash
    • “What would be 3 good reasons to keep this reaction?”
    • Moving inner voices around
    • Tom’s Enneagram Movie Guide
    • Tom’s thoughts on the Enneagram community
    • Tom does not actually think you need to be a psychologist to practice NLP
    • WCME 051: How to find an Enneagram teacher you can trust

      • You can find Tom, his courses, and his totally reasonably-priced products at thechangeworks.com!

      If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

      And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

      We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

      55 min
    • WCME 065: Rosemary Hurwitz and the Wellness Map

      Rosemary Hurwitz teaches us how each of the nine types has a Wellness Map: how the Enneagram’s stress and security points can guide us away from our unwell tendency and towards our “heaven on earth.”

      • “God doesn’t ask us to be perfect. God asks us to be in conscious process.” -Rosemary Hurwitz
      • 1: Good Reformer “Not my problem”
      • 2: Loving Giver “Giving AND receiving”
      • 3: Effective Achiever “What am I feeling? What’s my truth?”
      • 4: Original/Romantic “I have everything I need to grow”
      • 5: Wise Observer “In participation is the best experience” (being engaged without being attached)
      • 6: Loyal Vigilant “To thine own self be true”
      • 7: Joyful Adventurer “Loosen my inner critic” or “Stay.”
      • 8: Powerful Protector “Balance is the key to my true power”
      • 9: Peaceful Mediator “Resolve little things before they become big” (I know it feels like you don’t care, but *I* need to know what you need; it’s not good for me to steamroll you)
      • “We are all a rainbow of God; everyone is beautiful.” -Rosemary Hurwitz

        • You can find Rosemary at spiritdrivenliving.com, and she invites you to email her at [email protected].

        If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

        And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

        We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

        58 min
      • WCME 064: IEA part 4 of 4: Helen Palmer, the 3 instincts in relationship, and my impressions of the IEA community

        I learned quite a lot on each day,

        And made some great friends by the way.
        And all this despite
        Being quite old and white –
        Get hype for the great IEA!

        Helen Palmer:

        • “Your type is an adaptive strategy to keep you secure in the world.” -Helen Palmer
        • Identity feels like choosing but it’s really automatic
        • When I get triggered, instead of reacting outwardly, I can center inwardly.
        • The imagination is a true path to next levels of consciousness, if we can just get past our projections.
        • Anchor the castle, invoke the blue fairy, then she begins to sing.
        • Go to the part of your body that has shut down that has enabled the passion to arise. Stay with it and relax.
        • If you have trouble going within, ask “what am I running away from?” Take up a sport and get exhausted.
        • Apply the Enneagram to “be a tube not a bucket” to address the resistance in nine ways
        • That is not a thought. That is the recognition capacity of your inner witness.
        • Don’t go away from it. Go toward it. It’s just a contraction with a bunch of interpretation attached to it.

          • Instincts in relationship workshop:

          • All the instincts are trying to get needs met from outside. You can redirect and get them met from inside.
          • Self-pres says “please don’t have people over for parties”
          • Social says “sexual beats around the bush but doesn’t ask for what they need”
          • Sexual says “social wants to be heard but rambles and doesn’t get to the point. I want intimacy but not that kind.”

            • Overall impressions of the IEA community:

            • The IEA community is largely old and white, and the narrative tradition is stuck in 70’s gender roles.
            • Keep the spirit of scientific inquiry; drop the gatekeepers.
            • In order for this community to survive into the next generation, we need to be one community, not an uncomfortable hodgepodge of a spiritual community and an academic community.
            • The backstory about the snow shoveling argument

              • Previous episode in this series:

              • WCME 060: IEA 2016 part 1: Bringing a scientific mindset to the Enneagram
              • WCME 062: IEA 2016 part 2: Using Non-Violent Communication (NVC) to have conversations that transform
              • WCME 063: IEA 2016 part 3: 4 Perspectives on the 3 Instincts: Russ Hudson, Mario Sikora, Beatrice Chestnut, and Tom Condon

                • You can find the IEA conference here. I’ll be there and I’d love to meet you! -Pace

                If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                56 min
              • WCME 063: IEA 2016 part 3: 4 Perspectives on the 3 Instincts: Russ Hudson, Mario Sikora, Beatrice Chestnut, and Tom Condon

                Here are my takeaways from the panel on the three instincts, with panelists Russ Hudson, Mario Sikora, Beatrice Chestnut, and Tom Condon.

                • Russ: The instincts are energies in the body. Behaviors are symptoms. You want balance. Dominant instinct is your jet fuel for how you lose connection with your essence.
                • Mario: Clusters of evolutionary behaviors. Preserving, navigating, transmitting. Instinctual bias. Preserving resources. Preserving offspring. Navigating instead of social because social incorrectly implies extroversion. Transmitting, broadcasting followed by narrowcasting. Wanting to leave an impression.
                • Tom: Social has a group in their head.
                • Mario: 9 strategies for satisfying 3 instinctual needs.
                • Bea: Naranjo. 27 subtypes
                • Tom: NLP, speaking their language. People would cycle through the subtype reactions, in life and on the same day.
                • Russ: Sexual is the evolutionary drive. Social is awareness and care of other. The instincts will show you how you leak your life force. It’s a tool for self observation, not a new false identity. Learning your type and subtype is the booby prize. I don’t like “one on one” because all three instincts have one-on-one relationships but they all have a different flavor. I call it sexual or attraction. A social group can be of size two. There are sub instincts like self care and domesticity, and self preservation people are generally not good at both.
                • Tom: What’s the motivation? In a small town you might be social, because you might need to rely on those people for self preservation. A car crashes into your living room and you make it into furniture. The Enneagram shows you where to fish.
                • Bea: I say repressed instead of blind spot, it’s actively pushed down and will sometimes pop up and embarrass me.
                • Russ: Turn these habits into alarm clocks. We must cultivate presence or else there’s no one in the drivers seat to change anything. The repressed instinct is the one were most proud of. “I did the dishes, yay!” I (Pace) wonder if the law of three could apply. Dominant is yes, repressed is no, maybe the middle could reconcile?
                • Tom: Being conscious is overrated.
                • Mario: I don’t think one has to be repressed. Maybe I just don’t care about preserving. Transmitters don’t navigate. Preservers don’t transmit. Navigators don’t preserve.
                • Bea: Having a better relationship starts with having a better relationship with yourself.
                • Tom: It’s your ego’s job to defeat the Enneagram. The Enneagram is as deep as you dare.
                • Russ: “We talk about this stuff.”
                • Bea: “No one talks to me about this stuff.”
                • Russ: In the end, we’re not learning from our models. We’re learning from our humanity. Learning the Enneagram is to die to who I am moment by moment.
                • Tom: To find your type, narrow it down and then pick the one you want to be the least.
                • Mario: The more you learn about the Enneagram, the slower you are to type yourself and others.

                  • Previous episode in this series:

                  • WCME 060: IEA 2016 part 1: Bringing a scientific mindset to the Enneagram
                  • WCME 062: IEA 2016 part 2: Using Non-Violent Communication (NVC) to have conversations that transform

                    • If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                    And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                    We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                    38 min
                  • WCME 062: IEA 2016 part 2: Using Non-Violent Communication (NVC) to have conversations that transform

                    Here are my takeaways from Sylvia Haskvitz’s talk at the IEA 2016 Conference.

                    • It’s not about being right or wrong, it’s about needs.
                    • I made a list of every bad thing my dad had done to me. We talked. His perception was completely different.
                    • Go from “Us vs. Them” to “What are the needs?”
                    • Request vs demand. Need + person = request. A demand is when you don’t care about what the other person wants. It must be doable, for example “please respect me” is not a request. What could the other person say or do that would make you feel respected? Sibling who is an 8. “Cocky body language.” That’s not precise enough, not objective enough. Either make it objective or ask open ended questions.
                    • What need comes up for you often when you are in conflict?
                      • 1. Connect with yourself
                      2. Connect with another
                      3. Listen
                      4. Reflect
                    • Simple awareness automatically opens into loving kindness

                      • Previous episode in this series:

                      • WCME 060: IEA 2016 part 1: Bringing a scientific mindset to the Enneagram

                        • If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                        And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                        We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                        39 min
                      • WCME 061: The How and Why, Taking Care of Business with the Enneagram, with R. Karl Hebenstreit

                        This episode’s new consultation

                        Is with Karl, about organizations.
                        If his book you read,
                        You’ll learn how to lead,
                        So prepare for a brief demonstration.

                        Karl explains how the Enneagram can be used in Organization Development (OD). As an example, a manager can increase retention by knowing how team members of different types can be motivated – or demotivated, if you’re not careful!

                        You can find Karl at performandfunction.com, and you can buy his new book, The How and Why, Taking Care of Business with the Enneagram, on Amazon!

                        If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                        And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                        We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                        53 min
                      • WCME 060: IEA 2016 part 1: Bringing a scientific mindset to the Enneagram

                        A pre-conference day about science,

                        Some differ, some shrug in compliance.
                        There were brilliant quotations,
                        Some great conversations,
                        And one patriarchal defiance.

                        Here are my takeaways from the IEA 2016 Pre-Conference Day with Russ Hudson, Mario Sikora, and Jack Killen.

                        • Belief vs. inquiry
                        • Interested is a heart quality.
                        • Actively receptive in your mind. It transcends and includes discernment and openness.
                        • The head center is the least developed. Count gyms vs. philosophy clubs
                        • “Real reason has heart in it, but the two aren’t divorced.”
                        • Enlightenment is a head thing. It’s illumination.
                        • Mental chatter is like static when the radio is not tuned correctly. The right solution is to tune it, not to turn it off.
                        • The quiet behind that static is where thinking comes from.
                        • Mario: naïve intuition vs. expert intuition
                        • Jack: don’t be too enchanted by your models.
                        • Russ: Look for the paradox. What transcends and includes both?
                        • Use the right knowing tool for the right knowing task.
                        • Fast thinking vs. slow thinking
                        • What if there are ten types? The nine we know and people for whom the enneagram doesn’t apply?
                        • “All genuine development is uncomfortable.” -Russ
                        • “Spirituality is often usurped by the ever-popular desire to become a happy baby.” -Russ
                        • “Science advances one funeral at a time.” -Max Planck
                        • Russ: don’t identify with your type
                        • With a scientific perspective, finding out you’re wrong feels like a gain instead of a loss
                        • “The heart won’t settle for anything less than the truth. ” -Russ
                        • Russ: calculus is a useful language to describe classical physics. Statistics is a useful language to describe quantum physics. What is a useful language to describe subjective experience? Tears of truth!
                        • The body creates the space for head and heart to meet.
                        • The enneagram is the circle of the unitive mind, the triangle of the discursive mind, the hexad of dynamism.
                        • Polarity: “I am my enneagram type” vs. “I am beyond all types.” Try both on at the same time.

                          • List of cognitive biases on Wikipedia

                          usualerror.com

                          If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                          And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                          We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                          1 hr 5 min
                        • WCME 059: A conversation with Maartje, a Self-Preservation Four (Tenacity)

                          So Maartje’s a stoic Type Four.
                          Her hurricane’s not a downpour.
                          When her feelings abound,
                          She tamps them back down,
                          And stuffs them inside of a drawer.

                          Thank you, Maartje, for sharing what it’s like to be you!

                          If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                          And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                          We’re here every Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                          51 min
                        • WCME 058: The 27 Subtypes, with Beatrice Chestnut: 2, 3, and 4

                          There once was a Chestnut named Bea

                          Who divided each type into three.
                          It explains why some Fours,
                          While they’re wanting what’s yours,
                          Cry an ocean, and some punch the sea.

                          Beatrice Chestnut is the queen of subtypes. So we’re thrilled to have her on the show to complete our in-depth tour of all 27 subtypes, and talk about how you can find out your own subtype!

                          The subtypes of Type 2:

                          • sp: Privilege (childlike)
                          • so: Ambition (power)
                          • sx: Seduction/Aggression

                            • The subtypes of Type 3:

                            • sp: Security
                            • so: Prestige
                            • sx: Charisma

                              • The subtypes of Type 4:

                              • sp: Tenacity (stoic, long-suffering)
                              • so: Shame (sad, suffers)
                              • sx: Competition (mad, makes others suffer)

                                • You can find Bea at beatricechestnut.com! Be sure to check out her new book, coming in January 2017!

                                If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                                And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                                We’re here every other Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                                1 hr 23 min
                              • WCME 057: The 27 Subtypes, with Beatrice Chestnut: 8, 9, and 1

                                There once was a Chestnut named Bea

                                Who divided each type into three.
                                It’s a whole lot of fun,
                                And explains why a One
                                Might be hard on themself, or on me.

                                Beatrice Chestnut is the queen of subtypes. So we’re thrilled to have her on the show to continue our in-depth tour of all 27 subtypes!

                                The subtypes of Type 8:

                                • sp: Satisfaction/Survival
                                • so: Solidarity
                                • sx: Possession

                                  • The subtypes of Type 9:

                                  • sp: Appetite
                                  • so: Participation
                                  • sx: Fusion

                                    • The subtypes of Type 1:

                                    • sp: Worry (perfectionist)
                                    • so: Rigidity (perfect)
                                    • sx: Zeal (perfecting others)

                                      • You can find Bea at beatricechestnut.com, and she’ll be back again soon to complete the grand tour of all 27 subtypes!

                                      If you enjoyed this episode, would you be so kind as to leave us a review? You can find us by going to the Podcast page in iTunes and searching for “wild crazy meaningful enneagram”. Thanks! Your review helps more people discover the awesomeness of the Enneagram.

                                      And if you’d like to discover how the Enneagram could help YOU, sign up for an Enneagram Exploration! The Enneagram Exploration is your opportunity to talk with me one-on-one about how the Enneagram can help you live a wild, crazy, meaningful life. If that piques your curiosity, you can find out more at EnneagramPodcast.com.

                                      We’re here every other Wednesday morning, so we’ll see you next time!

                                      1 hr 8 min