As the Finnish parliament currently considers if Finland will join NATO, Giselle, Iulia, and Dalibor are joined by Finnish security consultant, Antti Seppo, to discuss Finnish strategic culture and Finland's stated interest to become a NATO member state. Seppo explains that fear of Russia does not motivate Finland's interest in joining NATO; rather, Finland wants to "be on the right side of the Iron Curtain." Seppo explains that Finland, although militarily unaligned, is politically oriented towards the West, and touches on Sweden's interest in joining NATO, as well. Seppo discusses Finland's exceptional conventional military capabilities and unpacks the term "Finlandization" and the true meaning of Finnish "neutrality." Given its influence in Europe, the group also offers takes on Germany's role in the war in Ukraine and analyzes Germany's problematic relationship with Russia.