Winning Slowly

Show Notes In which we laugh our way through a podcast about the world’s greatest humor website: homestarrunner.com. Why is it still funny? How does “funny” (of all things) manage to endure? What role does humor play in culture? How do things become timeless(ish)? Chapters ◦ Intro (0:49) ◦ White People Making Rap Videos (0:49–6:26) ◦ An Episode of Ishes (6:26–16:43) ◦ Put Things in Slow Motion to Make Them Awesome (16:43–26:26) ◦ Conclusion (26:26–28:06) ◦ Bloopers (28:06–28:49) Music ◦ “Everybody, Everybody” (http://www.homestarrunner.com/homester.html) – click “Songs, Music, and Balance Transfers” for this and many other songs. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) – nothing new or unusual about this. Links By “links” we basically just mean: go read Hyperbole and a Half (http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com) and watch things on HomeStarRunner.com (http://homestarrunner.com). ◦ HomeStarRunner.com • History section on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner#History) (actually rather interesting!) • Fish Eye Lens (http://homestarrunner.com/fisheyelens.html) • The System is Down (http://www.homestarrunner.com/systemisdown.html) • Teen Girl Squad (http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgsmenu.html) • Strongbad emails ◦ Trevor the Vampire (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail10.html) ◦ Trogdor (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html) • The game (http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html) • A Folky Tale (http://www.homestarrunner.com/dumpingtontoon.html) • Senor Cardgage Mortgage (http://www.homestarrunner.com/senormortgage.html) ◦ Hyperbole and a Half • The origin of “Clean All The Things”: “This is Why I’ll Never Be An Adult” (http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/06/this-is-why-ill-never-be-adult.html) (minor profanity warning) • “The Alot is Better Than You at Everything” (http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html) ◦ “Lampshade Hanging” (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging) (warning: if you click that link, it will take you to TVTropes.com... and you will waste all your time forever.

Note: if you downloaded this episode before 8:45pm Eastern time on October 21, 2014, you should re-download it. Chris made an error in mixing it together, leading to his and Stephen’s audio being slightly out of sync for the entire episode (!), which has since been fixed. If you downloaded it after that time, you’re good to go! Show Notes In which we ask: “Who funds the arts? And how does that impact the artist ethically?” Corporations, individuals, and governments all have distinct downsides as revenue streams for artists, and corporations and governments in particular can be problematic for both artists and consumers in the ways they complicate the expression of artistic intent. Chapters ◦ Intro (1:13) ◦ No One Would Be Left (1:13–8:56) ◦ Drop the Big Bombs (8:56–17:14) ◦ To Power Their Evil Machines of Death (17:14–27:21) ◦ Conclusion (27:21–29:34) ◦ Bloopers (29:34–30:04) Music ◦ “Love Me Back” (http://seergroup.bandcamp.com/album/love-me-back-single) by Seer Group. Used by permission. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho. Used by extra special super neat permission? Links ◦ Who Funds the arts and why we should care (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/4313691c-3513-11e4-aa47-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3DzkmMdfv) ◦ National Endowment for the Arts (http://arts.gov) • Controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_the_Arts#Controversy) • “Piss Christ” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ) ◦ Deepwater Horizon oil spill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill) (British Petroleum) ◦ Exxon Valdez oil spill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill) ◦ “Kitsch” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsch) ◦ Fritz Lang • Leaving Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Lang#Emigration) • The Incomparable #79: “Everything Sounds Beautiful in German” (http://5by5.tv/incomparable/80) ◦ Previous episodes relevant to the discussion/mentioned directly on the show: • 1.07: They Both Start With T? (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/they-both-start-with-t/) • 1.05: Ars Moriendi (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/ars-moriendi/) Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly) ◦ Ello (https://ello.co/winningslowly) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast)

In which we talk about new social media player Ello (https://ello.co)—some initial impressions, venture capital’s influence in Silicon Valley and its *distinctive* shape there vs. elsewhere, and thoughts on business model and communication. ◦ Intro (0:44) ◦ Definitely Still a Beta (0:44–5:27) ◦ That’s Not a Gift (5:27–14:02) ◦ How People React to News (14:02–22:32) ◦ A Working Business Model (22:32–28:32) ◦ Conclusion (28:32–30:04) ◦ Outtake (30:04–30:10) Music ◦ “Aldebaran Serpent” (http://falconarrow.bandcamp.com/track/aldebaran-serpent) from Tower (http://falconarrow.bandcamp.com/album/tower) by Falcon Arrow. Used by permission. (Isn’t that album art fantastic?) ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho. We asked him for permission, and he said “Yes.” Links ◦ Ello (https://ello.co/) • About: ◦ What is Ello? (https://ello.co/wtf/post/about-ello) ◦ Who Created Ello? (https://ello.co/wtf/post/founders) ◦ Ello Manifesto (https://ello.co/wtf/post/manifesto) ◦ Ello Doesn’t Have Ads (https://ello.co/wtf/post/why-no-ads) • Criticism: ◦ Aral Balkan: “Ello, goodbye.” (https://aralbalkan.com/notes/ello-goodbye/) ◦ Ello user Andy Baio (@waxpancake) (https://ello.co/waxpancake) on Ello’s venture capital (https://ello.co/waxpancake/post/oy73kFfDdhOPh8Jv9z9pFA) ◦ fresh Tracks Capital (http://www.freshtrackscap.com/) • Their information page on Ello (http://www.freshtrackscap.com/fund-iii-companies/Ello) • Ello’s and freshTrack’s responses: ◦ Ello Founder Says VC Funding Is No Big Secret: ‘That’s Silly’ (http://betabeat.com/2014/09/ello-founder-says-vc-funding-is-no-big-secret-thats-silly/) ◦ Ello investor, co-founder: Funding or not, we hate ads and we want to “shift values” (https://gigaom.com/2014/09/25/ello-investor-co-founder-funding-or-not-we-hate-ads-and-we-want-to-shift-values/) ◦ Ello Cofounder: ‘We Have NO Exit Strategy’ (http://betabeat.com/2014/09/ello-cofounder-we-have-no-exit-strategy/) ◦ Ben Thompson: “Ello and Consumer Friendly Business Models” (http://stratechery.com/2014/ello-consumer-friendly-business-models/) • The Vox: “31,000 people an hour are joining the social network Ello. The anti-Facebook, explained.” (http://www.vox.com/2014/9/26/6844633/what-is-ello-should-i-care) • 86: Moving the Party to the Bar Down the Block (http://atp.fm/episodes/86) (Accidental Tech Podcast) • “Considering the audience” (https://ello.co/chriskrycho/post/n4U3NdHR_gqBVj64YE075A) – Chris’ conversation with @oluseyi (https://ello.co/oluseyi) (and others) on Ello about iOS and Android ◦ Other social networks attempting to break free of the ad-driven model: • App.net (https://app.net/) • Tent.is/Cupcake.io (https://cupcake.io) • Diaspora (https://joindiaspora.com) ◦ Markdown (http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/) – a simple syntax for writing text for the web. • Chris’ post on using Markdown for academic writing (http://2012-2013.chriskrycho.com/web/markdown-and-academic-writing/) ◦ Previously on the show: • 0.04 Tell Me What to Do (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/03/tell-me-what-to-do/): on Editorially and startup business models, and also on bands making genre shifts. • 0.13 Ten Thousandth Lightbulb (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/05/ten-thousandth-lightbulb/): on App.net, social media, and funding models. • 1.07 They Both Start With T? (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/they-both-start-with-t/): on Taylor Swift, Twitter, and messaging. • 1.11 We Need Life Editors (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/09/we-need-life-editors/): in which we inveighed gainst the going-it-alone approach to the arts. Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly) ◦ Ello (https://ello.co/winningslowly) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast)

Show Notes In which we start with a look at some really neat apps designed to ease political engagement in the United States and then branch out to talk about the limits of political engagement, the importance of valuing other forms of public life, and what it means to be fully-realized human beings. Corrigenda Chris said that Countable addresses local politics; it does not. It focuses on national bills in the House and Senate. Also, he mentioned the Westminster Confession but meant the Westminster Shorter Catechism. Chapters ◦ Intro (0:29) ◦ Techo-Utopianism (0:29–9:24) ◦ 8,000 Years of Human History (9:24–18:40) ◦ Do You Know Your Neighbors (18:40–24:24) ◦ Conclusion (24:24–25:26) ◦ Bloopers (25:26–26:08) Music ◦ “Those Days” (https://soundcloud.com/noireband/those-days-1) by Noire. Used by permission. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho. He dances a little jig inside every time someone starts whistling this theme after listening to an episode. Or he would if he knew about it. Links The things we talk about in the show that might interest you. Click them! Click them! ◦ Countable (https://www.countable.us) ◦ Simpolfy (http://www.simpolfy.com) • IndieGoGo campaign (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/simpolfy-bringing-politics-into-the-21st-century) ◦ Sites that aim to produce non-partisan information useful to the public for political engagement (listed alphabetically): • Congress.gov (https://www.congress.gov)—for access to bill listings • The Cook Political Report (http://cookpolitical.com) • FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org) • Pew Research Center (http://www.pewresearch.org) • Politifact.com (http://www.politifact.com) • Pro Publica (http://www.propublica.org) ◦ To Change the World: The Irony, Tragedy, and Possibility of Christianity in the Late Modern World (http://www.amazon.com/To-Change-World-Possibility-Christianity/dp/0199730806/), James Davison Hunter ◦ Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community (http://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/dp/0743203046/), Robert D. Putnam ◦ The Westminster Shorter Catechism (http://www.reformed.org/documents/WSC.html)

Show Notes In which we geek out about Doctor Who... and do our best to say something meaningful about the necessity of people who can tell us what we're getting wrong in life, and who can be strong where we have weaknesses. Correction We said only one episode of new Doctor Who has won a Hugo. We were dreadfully wrong: the show has won six Hugos since the revival in 2006. Whoops. Recommended Moffat Episodes of Doctor Who ◦ “The Empty Child” and “The Doctor Dances” ◦ “The Girl in the Fireplace” ◦ “Blink” ◦ “Silence in the Library” and “Forest of the Dead” ◦ “The Day of the Doctor” (fiftieth anniversary special) Chapters ◦ Intro (1:10) ◦ I Am Awesome At This (1:10–7:03) ◦ Actually It Was a Robot in a Dream (7:03–14:48) ◦ Lone Rebel Genius (14:48–20:38) ◦ Hip Motion is for Losers (20:38–25:04) ◦ Conclusion (25:04–26:30) ◦ Things We Cut. Yep. (26:30–27:08) Music ◦ “Doctor Who Theme” (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/doctor-who-theme-tv-version/id211202668?i=211202676), by Ron Grainer, arranged by Murray Gold. We're pretty confident this goes under Fair Use. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho. No dance beat today, sorry. Links In which we link to neat things you might like. ◦ Allergic to Consensus (http://reallifecomics.com/?comic=august-26-2014) – Real Life Comics by Greg Dean ◦ “What to do when you disagree with your editor” (http://www.writingexcuses.com/2014/08/24/writing-excuses-9-35-what-to-do-when-you-disagree-with-your-editor/) – Writing Excuses, Season 9, Episode 35 ◦ Previously on the show: 1.04 Superhero Movies! (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/superhero-movies/) Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly)

Show Notes In which we talk about something Apple did this week… but not the thing they announced, and almost certainly not what you'd expect. Namely: the death of the iPod Classic: Apple's oldest consumer product outside the Mac, and a veritable gamechanger for the music industry. It's gone, and Stephen is upset. (Chris, not so much.) Chapters ◦ Intro (1:32) ◦ It's Probably Pastel White (1:32–9:45) ◦ You're Probably in my Hundred Friends (9:45–14:45) ◦ What the Corporate Overlord Giveth (14:45–19:45) ◦ How You Relate to an Object (19:45–26:45) ◦ Conclusion (26:45–27:58) Music ◦ “Carry Oceans” (https://soundcloud.com/yomontoya/carry-oceans), by Montoya (http://yomontoya.com) – used by permission. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho, who can use his own music in public context whenever he so desires. Links ◦ iPod Classic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Classic) (Wikipedia) ◦ Flipboard (https://flipboard.com) ◦ Lumosity (http://www.lumosity.com) ◦ Inkpad (http://www.inkpadnotepad.com) Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly)

Show Notes In which we talk about the recent celebrity nude selfies leak from just about every angle: the people who hijacked the photos, those who took the photos, the technology used to store the photos, and society at large. We talk about what individuals' relationship with technology should look like, how we should view those who behave wickedly, and where there might be hope for solving these kinds of problems in our society. Chapters ◦ Intro (0:58) ◦ The Internet is Not “Safe” (0:58–07:23) ◦ Degrading Women (7:23–15:51) ◦ People Do Wicked Things (15:51–20:57) ◦ No Better Answers (20:57–27:45) ◦ Conclusion (27:45–28:45) Music ◦ “Trap” from Believers (http://remediesbham.bandcamp.com) by Remedies. Used by permission. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho, who can use his own music in public context whenever he so desires. Links ◦ Nude photos of Jennifer Lawrence and others posted online by alleged hacker (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/01/nude-photos-of-jennifer-lawrence-and-others-posted-online-by-alleged-hacker) (The Guardian) ◦ Update: What Jennifer Lawrence can teach you about cloud security (http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/what-jennifer-lawrence-can-teach-you-about-cloud-security/) (Ars Technica) ◦ Apple confirms celebrities’ accounts breached in “highly targeted” attack (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/apple-confirms-celebrities-accounts-breached-in-highly-targeted-attack/) (Ars Technica) ◦ Hack leaks hundreds of nude celebrity photos (http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/1/6092089/nude-celebrity-hack) (The Verge) ◦ Apple Denies iCloud breach in celebrity nude photo hack (http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/2/6098107/apple-denies-icloud-breach-celebrity-nude-photo-hack) (The Verge) Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly)

Show Notes In which we talk about the drive to publish all the time and the value of publishing more substantive content at a slower pace. We talk about the way the internet has driven us toward rapid-fire publishing models and how long-form and high-quality content is difficult (if not impossible) to publish on this model. We look at how to build an audience via quality and the slow route instead of the click-driven model, note that this is difficult to sustain as a means of income, and even think a bit about the history of long-form and serial publishing. Chapters ◦ Intro (1:23) ◦ Peak Stream (1:23–6:44) ◦ Winning Slowly Quickly (6:44–11:14) ◦ Winning Slowly Slowly (11:14–23:33) ◦ Conclusion (23:33–24:35) Music ◦ “Seasons” from Palm Ghosts by Palm Ghosts (http://palmghosts.com) ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho. Mmm. Piano. Links ◦ “2013: The Year the 'Stream' Crested” (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/2013-the-year-the-stream-crested/282202/) – the Atlantic ◦ Chris' favorite podcasts (the ones he gets sad if they come out late): • The Incomparable (http://5by5.tv/incomparable) • Accidental Tech Podcast (http://atp.fm) ◦ Independent Clauses (http://independentclauses.com) – Stephen's independent music site, with reviews that work as press quotes for small indie bands. • Stephen's review (http://independentclauses.com/palm-ghosts-combine-multiple-genres-into-a-warm-relaxed-record/) of Palm Ghosts ◦ Craig Mod (http://craigmod.com) • Post-Artifact Books & Publishing (http://craigmod.com/journal/post_artifact/) • Subcompact Publishing (http://craigmod.com/journal/subcompact_publishing/) • Hack the Cover (http://craigmod.com/journal/hack_the_cover/) ◦ John Siracusa • OS X 10.9 “Mavericks” Review (http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/) ◦ iBooks (https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/os-x-10.9-mavericks-ars-technica/id728112618?mt=11&uo=4&at=11l6SN) ◦ Kindle (http://www.amazon.com/OS-10-9-Mavericks-Technica-Review-ebook/dp/B00G3J8NPQ/) • Hypercritical (http://hypercritical.co) ◦ Obduction Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cyaninc/obduction) – the new game from the folks behind Myst ◦ Elite: Dangerous (http://www.elitedangerous.com) – a crowdfunded space sim currently in development • the Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous) project ◦ Star Citizen (https://robertsspaceindustries.com) – another crowdfunded space sim • the Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen) project ◦ Shigeru Miyamoto: A rushed game is forever bad (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/apr/27/shigeru-miyamoto-rushed-game-forever-bad) ◦ Longform (http://longform.org) ◦ Medium (https://medium.com) ◦ Entitlement issues... (http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html) – Neil Gaiman on George R. R. Martin's writing pace ◦ Previous episodes referenced on the show: • 0.09: Humility Please (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/04/humility-please/) • 1.05: Ars Moriendi (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/ars-moriendi/) • 1.07: They Both Start With a 'T' (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/they-both-start-with-t/) Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly)

Show Notes In which we talk about Taylor Swift, Twitter, and changes in expectations. We admit that Chris is a Taylor Swift fan and that Stephen is a hipster. Then we get down to the business of talking about how these two changes differ both in messaging and in content, and look at the ways that both consumers and producers have to be intentional in managing expectations. Chapters ◦ Intro (1:20) ◦ Haters Gonna Hate (1:20–07:40) ◦ Turning Itself Into Facebook (07:40–16:33) ◦ Artists and Corporations Are Not the Same (16:33–24:15) ◦ Social Media of Record (24:15–28:48) ◦ Conclusion (28:48–29:40) Music ◦ “Betamax” (https://soundcloud.com/the-royal-potato-family/03-betamax), by Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey – used by permission. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly), by Chris Krycho: still super neat. Right? Links ◦ “Shake It Off” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM) – official music video ◦ “Haters, Keep Hating: Taylor Swift’s 'Shake It Off' Will Take Over the World” (http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/haters-keep-hating-taylor-swifts-shake-it-off-will-take-over-the-world/) ◦ “This is how Twitter is starting to fundamentally redefine itself” (http://qz.com/251208/this-is-how-twitter-is-starting-to-fundamentally-redefine-itself/) ◦ “Twitter now officially says your timeline is more than just tweets from people you follow” (http://qz.com/252192/twitter-now-officially-says-your-timeline-is-more-than-just-tweets-from-people-you-follow/#/h/97294,1/) ◦ Previous episodes referenced on the show: • 0.01: We Need Some Context! (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/01/we-need-some-context/) – Religious twittering, Google nesting, and hobbyists careering. • 0.04: Tell Me What To Do (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/03/tell-me-what-to-do/) – Beating Up Writers, Musical Careering, and Losing Editorially • 0.13: Ten Thousandth Lightbulb (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/05/ten-thousandth-lightbulb/) – What Happened to ADN, Paying to Socialize, Free or Not Free • 0.14: Deep In Their Bones (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/05/deep-in-their-bones/) – Tech Companies Which Just Can't Pivot, Denominations Don't Change Fast Either, Dealing in Institutional Realities • 1.01: Massive Emotional Contagion (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/07/massive-emotional-contagion/) – Facebook's Social (Network) Science, User Responsibility, and Corporate Ethics • 1.05: Ars Moriendi (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/ars-moriendi/) – This Is An Orchestra, Those Lyrics, You Have to Go Through Death • 1.06: Rebuke Me Some People (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/08/rebuke-me-some-people/) – Act Like Grownups, Rules 0 and 1, But We Still Disagree, Calling People on the Carpet

Show Notes In which we discuss the necessity of extending charity to each other in our conversations, especially conversations on controversial issues. Springboarding from public/internet reactions to Christian musician Michael Gungor's discussion of his views on Genesis, we talk about the necessity of charity, Chris' Rules for Argument, the importance of taking a long-term view on friendship and persuasion, and what to do in the face of serious disagreement about important issues. Chapters ◦ Intro (2:06) ◦ Act Like Grownups (2:06–6:15) ◦ Rules 0 and 1 (6:15–15:55) ◦ But We Still Disagree (15:55–23:58) ◦ Calling People on the Carpet (23:58–30:50) ◦ Conclusion (30:50–31:45) Music ◦ “Perfect World”, from I, by Americano (http://americo.bandcamp.com): used by permission. ◦ “Winning Slowly Theme” (https://soundcloud.com/chriskrycho/winning-slowly) by Chris Krycho: designed to make your ears giddy. Links ◦ “What Do We Believe?” (http://gungormusic.com/2014/02/what-do-we-believe/) – Michael Gungor's original blog post ◦ “Gungor drifts from biblical orthodoxy” (http://www.worldmag.com/2014/08/gungor_drifts_from_biblical_orthodoxy) – Jeff Kock at World Magazine ◦ “I’m With You” (http://gungormusic.com/2014/08/im-with-you/) – a follow-up blog post by Michael Gungor ◦ “I’m With You (Part 2)” (http://gungormusic.com/2014/08/im-with-you-part-2/) – more follow-up by Michael Gungor ◦ “Why Are People So Upset About What Gungor Said?” (http://www.relevantmagazine.com/current/why-are-people-so-upset-about-what-gungor-said) – Aaron Ross at Relevant ◦ Chris' blog post (http://www.chriskrycho.com/2014/earth-age-inerrancy.html) on the young Earth/old Earth controversy ◦ “Duty Calls” (https://xkcd.com/386/) – the “obligatory XKCD” (“Someone is wrong on the internet.”) ◦ Episode 0.03: Echo Chamber (http://www.winningslowly.org/2014/02/echo-chamber/) – in which we talked about Ken Ham, Bill Nye, culture wars, and the importance of wisdom in knowing how to engage appropriate in a given context Follow/Subscribe ◦ iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-slowly/id807603957?mt=2) ◦ Twitter (https://twitter.com/winningslowly) ◦ Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/winningslowlypodcast) ◦ App.net (https://alpha.app.net/winningslowly)