With Interest

We know that AI is changing how audit work is performed.

However, it is not replacing the need for professional judgement.

This episode examines what responsible AI adoption means for auditors, accounting firms and the wider profession.

The discussion also considers how firms can build the governance, skills and culture needed to adopt AI effectively.

Listeners will learn:

• Why adopting AI requires professionals to both adapt and develop new skills

• Why industry knowledge and human judgement remain central to audit

• How audit teams may evolve as data analytics and technology skills become more important

• Why regulators, professionals and technology providers need to work together

• How complacency, rather than AI itself, could pose a greater risk to the profession

• Why it matters to clearly communicate AI's role to clients, teams and stakeholders

Host: Gavan Ord, business investment and international lead, CPA Australia

Guest: Brian Indradjaja FCPA, Indonesia leader and president director of PT Deloitte Indonesia, and Deloitte's Asia Pacific digital regulations leader.

Learn more about Brian Indradjaja FCPA and Deloitte.

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CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

This episode examines why practice values remain strong, how the definition of scale is changing, and what this means for owners and aspiring entrepreneurs.

The good news is that accounting practices are becoming increasingly attractive to buyers, even as AI reshapes the profession.

The discussion matters for accountants considering ownership, practice owners planning succession, and advisers watching consolidation across the Australian market.

Listeners will learn:

• Why demand for accounting practices currently exceeds supply

• What makes an accounting practice attractive to buyers

• How AI is changing the meaning of scale

• The options available to owners considering succession or a sale

• What buyers look for in clients, teams and practice infrastructure

• Why accounting can provide a pathway to business ownership

• How future firms may shift from compliance towards advisory work

Tune in now.

Host: Elinor Kasapidis, chief of policy standards and external affairs, CPA Australia

Guest: Mark Emney, director and co-owner of DMY

CPA Australia also has some useful information on buying and selling an accounting practice.

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CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Scaling your business is one thing. But expanding it internationally brings a whole other set of challenges.

This episode features a guest who shares his experience and the realities of scaling a technology business across Australia, New Zealand and Asia.

You'll gain expert insights on:

• Why trust is key when expanding internationally
• Why technology can make both good decisions and bad assumptions scale faster
• How leadership mindset needs to adapt when entering a new market
• Why distributed teams need a shared "one team" approach while adapting locally
• How governance and guardrails can speed up AI experimentation
• Why treating Asia as a collection of distinct markets matters
• What "right to win" means when entering a new market
• How presence and engagement can build market relevance
• Why trust, respect and longevity are particularly important in Asian markets
• Why businesses should learn before making major commitments
• How personal and business networks contribute to international growth

Listen now.

Host: Elinor Kasapidis, Chief of Policy, Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia

Guest: Mitchell Pham, a technology entrepreneur, business leader and advocate for international collaboration between Asia and the West. He is the co‑founder and director of Augen Software Group (now CodeHQ), a technology company operating across New Zealand and Vietnam, and is an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit (ONZM), recognised for his contribution to technology, business and international relationships.

You can learn more about CodeHQ on LinkedIn.

Loving this episode?

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CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

It's clear that AI is changing how work is performed and how businesses create value.

However, are tax systems set to keep pace with this rapid disruption in Australia?

Recorded live at CPA Australia's Tax Forum in August 2026, this special episode addresses this question and examines how AI could reshape taxation - from traditional sources of government revenue to tax administration and compliance.

The discussion considers what policymakers need to think about as productivity gains from AI flow through the economy, and how tax systems can remain sustainable as the nature of work and value creation changes.

This episode covers key areas such as:

• How will AI affect tax revenue, new taxes, compliance and economic growth in Australia
• The era of tax fragmentation and today's geopolitical landscape
• Cross-border investment in an era of unilateral measures
• Australia's "predictable" tax system in relation to foreign investment
• The OECD and other multilateral institutions and the role they'll play over the next decade
• Understanding the economic and fiscal drivers shaping the broader tax reform debate
• The big tax debates that nobody's talking about

Listen now for a high-level, expert discussion.

Host: Jenny Wong, Tax Lead, CPA Australia

Guests: Viva Hammer, Research Fellow, Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University, David Bradbury, former Chair of the Board of Taxation and Michelle de Niese, Executive Director of the Corporate Tax Association.

CPA Australia has useful tools and resources on tax reform.

Loving this episode?

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CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Financial crime is evolving fast, becoming more sophisticated, cross-border and digitally enabled.

This episode examines how organisations can move beyond reacting to fraud and take a proactive approach to building controls that anticipate how criminals may attack their systems.

The discussion is particularly relevant as Australia extends AML/CTF obligations to professions including accountants, lawyers, and real estate professionals.

Listeners will gain expert insight on:

• Why fraud and AML/CTF should be treated as two sides of the same problem
• How to test products and processes from a fraudster's perspective
• Why continuous surveillance matters after customer onboarding
• How banks, regulators and other industries can share intelligence
• What shared responsibility means for professional advisers
• How AI is being used to detect financial crime and why AI will also increase the threat
• Where firms should start when strengthening AML/CTF controls

Tune in now.

Host: Elinor Kasapidis, chief of policy standards and external affairs, CPA Australia.

Guest: Vincent Mok Yau Yee. He is currently a member of the Malaysian Divisional Council of CPA Australia and the group chief risk officer for GXS Bank based in Singapore.

Learn more about GXS at its website.

CPA Australia also has information on anti-money laundering reforms as well as guidance for practitioners around AML/CTF.

Loving this episode?

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And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.

CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Chapters:

00:00 Opening

00:19 Podcast intro AML/CTF, fraud risks and financial crime controls

01:31 Vincent Mok's career journey from CPA to digital bank CRO

04:19 How digital banking is changing the financial crime landscape

05:08 Fighting financial crime: From defensive controls to proactive risk management

07:08 Designing fraud-resistant products and thinking like a fraudster

09:29 Fraud, scam victims, money mules and vulnerable customers

11:22 What effective fraud controls and AML governance look like

15:26 Industry collaboration, intelligence sharing and public-private partnerships

19:00 AML/CTF obligations for accountants, lawyers and professional advisers

23:15 AI, deepfakes and using artificial intelligence to combat financial crime

26:29 Getting started with AML/CTF compliance and shared responsibility

29:19 Key takeaways on fraud prevention, AML controls and digital banking security

30:15 CPA Australia AML/CTF resources and closing remarks

What if some of your organisation's most valuable business intelligence came from space?

This episode explores how satellite data is helping organisations improve decision making, reduce risk and uncover new opportunities.

It explains why the commercial value of the space economy is no longer centred on launching rockets, but on using space-enabled data to solve real business challenges here on Earth.

From agriculture and mining to finance, sustainability and infrastructure planning, the discussion explores how Earth observation, AI and geospatial analytics are helping organisations make faster, more informed decisions.

Research backs up this opportunity.

A new Deloitte report, The Space Edge, argues that by 2030, Southeast Asia could unlock US$100 billion in economic value - not from launching into space, but from using space‑enabled technologies to improve decision-making across industries.

In this episode you'll learn:

• Why the space economy has shifted from rockets to business intelligence
• How satellite data supports better operational and investment decisions
• Where competitive advantage may emerge over the next five years
• How satellite data is already being used in agriculture, insurance, infrastructure and logistics
• Why Southeast Asia is uniquely positioned to benefit
• What business leaders should do now to take advantage

Listen in now to learn more insights.

Host: Elinor Kasapidis, Chief of Policy, Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia

Guests: Michelle Khoo, Center Leader, Deloitte Center for the Edge Southeast Asia, where she leads frontier innovation initiatives spanning emerging technologies such as AI, quantum computing, and space technologies, helping organisations translate complex trends into practical action. Michelle has advised C-suites and Board members on navigating technological and societal disruption.

You can learn more about Michelle Khoo at the Deloitte Center for the Edge Southeast Asia website.

Additionally, check out Deloitte's report The Space Edge.

Loving this episode?

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And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.

CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Chapters:

00:00 Episode intro

00:21 CPA Australia With Interest Podcast: How Space Data Improves Business Decisions

01:03 Deloitte The Space Edge Report: US$100 Billion Southeast Asia Opportunity

02:03 SpaceX, Reusable Rockets and the New Space Economy Explained

04:02 AI, Satellite Data and the Business Value of Better Decision-Making

05:00 Agriculture, Crop Monitoring and Food Security with Earth Observation Data

06:11 Mining, Oil & Gas and Methane Leak Detection Using Satellite Constellations

08:29 Government Infrastructure Planning, Population Growth and Satellite Analytics

09:47 Flood Resilience, Climate Risk and Natural Disaster Management with Space Data

11:21 Flood Risk Assessment, Banking, Insurance and Geospatial Decision-Making

12:35 Green Loans, Solar Panel Analysis and Sustainable Finance Applications

13:54 Why Southeast Asia Is a Hotspot for Satellite Data Innovation

15:30 30-Centimetre Satellite Imagery and the Future of Earth Observation

16:41 How Business Leaders Can Identify High-ROI Satellite Data Use Cases

17:13 Infrared Sensors, SAR Radar and Advanced Satellite Imaging Technologies

19:28 Deloitte Audit Innovation: Monitoring Remote Assets from Space

20:56 How Satellite Data Creates Safer, Smarter and More Productive Operations

22:15 SpaceX, Japan Inc. and Ping An: Space as a Driver of Corporate Innovation

23:42 Key Takeaways: Satellite Data as Critical Business Infrastructure

24:21 Deloitte The Space Edge Report, Resources and Closing Remarks

How do you measure value when much of a company's worth no longer appears on the balance sheet?

This episode explores the growing importance of intangible assets and why they have become one of the most significant challenges facing accountants, valuers, investors, and standard setters.

As investment increasingly flows into intangibles such as software, data, AI, brands and intellectual capital, questions are emerging about whether traditional financial reporting can keep pace.

Key listener takeaways include:

• Why intangible assets are becoming a major driver of business value

• The growing gap between market value and financial statement value

• How valuation standards support consistency and trust

• Why investors need greater visibility for intangible investments

• What CFOs, auditors and valuers can do differently to improve intangible valuations

• What the IASB's review of intangible asset reporting could mean

• Why transparency, professional judgement, and valuation quality matter

You'll gain clear insight from this practical discussion on where value now lives inside organisations and how reporting frameworks may need to evolve.

Host: Elinor Kasapidis, chief of policy standards and external affairs, CPA Australia

Guests: Ram Subramanian, external reporting policy lead, CPA Australia

Nicolas Konialidis, director of the International Valuation Standards Council (IVSC) in Asia and technical director of IVSC's Business Valuation Board. He has over three decades of experience in equity markets, corporate finance, and valuations in Europe, the USA and Asia

Learn more about the IVSC by heading to its website and there you'll find additional perspectives on intangibles.

And you can read IOSCO's statement on the importance of high-quality valuation information in financial reporting.

IOSCO is the international body that brings together the world's securities and derivatives regulators, and is recognised as the global standard setter for financial market regulation.

You can also watch the Valuing AI, Data and Intangible Assets: Insights from Nicolas Konialidis webinar from CPA Australia's 'Accounting for Intangibles Summit'.

Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts

And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.

CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Chapters:

00:00 Intangible Assets and Business Valuation: Why Value Creation Is Changing

00:26 CPA Australia With Interest: Valuations, Accounting Standards and Intangible Assets

01:30 Nicolas Konialidis on the Dot-Com Boom, Market Valuations and Intangibles

02:31 IVSC Explained: International Valuation Standards and Financial Reporting

04:08 AI, Data, Software and Platform Businesses: The Intangible Asset Challenge

06:07 Capital Allocation and AI Investment: Why Better Intangible Asset Reporting Matters

07:05 IVSC Intangible Assets Research: Goodwill, Brand Value, Human Capital and Data

10:19 IAS 38 and the IASB Review: Modernising Accounting for Intangible Assets

11:28 CFOs as Chief Value Officers: Valuation Skills for the Intangible Economy

13:36 Making Intangibles More Tangible: Improving Valuation Transparency and Comparability

15:17 IOSCO, IVSC and Financial Reporting: Raising Valuation Quality Standards

16:40 CPA Australia Intangible Summit: The Future of Accounting and Valuation Standards

18:31 Technology Innovation vs Accounting Standards: Closing the Intangibles Gap

19:29 Valuation Risk and Intangible Assets: Impacts on Investors and Capital Allocation

20:46 Market Value vs Book Value: Why Financial Reporting Must Stay Relevant

21:58 Key Takeaways: Intangible Assets, Valuation Standards and Market Confidence

Strong professional judgement is often the difference between identifying risk early and recognising failure only in hindsight.

This episode explores what major market collapses can teach auditors, accountants and finance professionals about maintaining trust, independence and scepticism when risks are evolving rapidly.

With Paul Munter, formerly of the US Security and Exchange Commission (SEC), in the studio – along with CPA Australia's audit and assurance lead Tiffany Tan – this episode offers deep insight into this important issue.

Drawing on lessons from Enron, WorldCom, the global financial crisis and FTX, the discussion examines how reporting narratives can gradually drift from economic reality and why strong professional judgement remains critical.

Key takeaways:

• What past market failures reveal about weaknesses in reporting, auditing and oversight
• Why audit quality, independence and professional scepticism remain essential
• How emerging risks such as crypto and private capital challenge traditional approaches
• The importance of asking better questions and challenging explanations that do not make sense
• Why the profession needs to do a better job explaining the value and career opportunities within audit
• How auditors contribute to market confidence, capital formation and investor trust

Host: Elinor Kasapidis, chief of policy standards and external affairs, CPA Australia.

Guests:

Paul Munter served as the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) chief accountant (2021-25) and its deputy chief accountant (2019-21). He had previously retired from KPMG where he was the lead technical partner for its international accounting and International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS) activities. He is a CPA in Colorado, New York, and Florida.

Tiffany Tan, audit and assurance lead, CPA Australia.

You can learn more about Paul Munter here.

CPA Australia also has some useful audit and assurance tools and resources.

Loving this episode?

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CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Chapters:

00:00 Audit Independence Failure: Firm vs Practice Responsibility

00:26 CPA Australia "With Interest" Podcast Introduction – Elinor Kasapidis

00:40 Evolving Risk Landscape: Enron, WorldCom, GFC, and FTX

01:13 Guest Introduction: Paul Munter, SEC Chief Accountant Background

01:48 Enron & WorldCom: Early Warning Signs and Reporting Drift

02:56 Breakdowns in Standards, Application, and Audit Quality

04:25 Arthur Andersen Collapse: Independence and Firm Culture Lessons

06:06 Incentives and Oversight Failures: Non-Audit Services Risk

08:11 ISQM 1 and Audit Quality: Tone from the Top and Trust

08:40 Global Financial Crisis: Lehman Brothers and Window Dressing Repo Transactions

10:10 Counterparty Risk, Transparency, and Financial Disclosure Challenges

11:27 Mortgage-Backed Securities and Securitization Risk Amplification

13:56 Dodd-Frank and Strengthening Regulatory Frameworks

14:41 Crypto and FTX Collapse: Regulation, Visibility, and Compliance Gaps

16:52 Audit Competence and Engagement Acceptance: Lessons from FTX

19:55 Private Markets: Private Equity, Investor Eligibility, and Disclosure Debate

22:58 Audit Talent Pipeline Challenges and Value Proposition

24:55 Professional Skepticism: Curiosity and Asking Better Questions

26:08 Audit Career Paths: Opportunities, Travel, and Industry Exposure

29:53 Closing Remarks and CPA Australia Resources

If you're a property investor or managing investment assets, this episode features expert ATO guidance to help guide you through tax time in 2026.

Want an example?

Rental property tax can be straightforward until ownership structures, short-term rentals, loan redraws and capital gains tax enter the picture.

This episode explores the tax issues investors most commonly get wrong and the practical steps that can help avoid costly mistakes.

You'll learn:

• Common mistakes involving interest deductibility and loan redraws

• The difference between repairs, maintenance and capital improvements

• Understanding the rules around apportionment

• Why record keeping matters throughout the life of an investment

• Overlooked capital gains tax triggers that investors should understand

• How data matching helps identify discrepancies in tax returns

• Practical steps to stay compliant and avoid unnecessary errors

Tune in now.

Host: Jenny Wong, Tax Lead, CPA Australia

Guest: Anita Challen, Assistant Commissioner, ATO

For more, head to CPA Australia's tax time tools and resources page.

And of course, you can head to the ATO website or you can download the ATO app.

The ATO also has online services and you can go on the ATO website and search verify or report a scam or how to stay scam safe for more information. And you can phone the ATO on 1800 008 540.

You can revisit the first three episodes of the tax time 2026 series at our website, with episodes on the ATO's main focus areas, SME guidance and the ATO's counter-fraud program.

Loving this episode?

Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts

And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.

CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Cyber fraud is not going to stop overnight.

It will continue to become more sophisticated and pervasive as time goes on.

Which means this third episode in the tax time 2026 series is even more relevant today as it focuses on fraud risks and how you can protect your financial data.

With guest expertise from Jade Hawkins, assistant commissioner in the ATO's fraud and criminal behaviours business line, and hosted by CPA Australia's tax lead Jenny Wong, deep dive into the ATO's counter-fraud program, emerging scam trends and the practical tools now available to strengthen digital security across the tax system ahead of tax time 2026.

Additionally, explore new features in the ATO app that give taxpayers more control over their accounts to the steps agents can take to protect their clients and their own practices from new threats.

In this episode, you will also gain expert information on:

• why identity theft and frauds are becoming more sophisticated

• what tax agents can do to protect clients and their own practices

• the most common fraud and cyber-attack techniques targeting the sector

• why strong myID settings and multifactor authentication matter

• how phishing, malware and credential stuffing attacks are evolving

• what happens when a taxpayer's account is compromised.

Tune in now.

Host: Jenny Wong, tax lead, CPA Australia

Guest: Jade Hawkins, assistant commissioner in the ATO's fraud and criminal behaviours business line

For more, head to CPA Australia's tax time tools and resources page.

Additionally, you can head to the ATO website or download the ATO app.

The ATO also has online services and you can go on the ATO website to verify or report a scam or learn how to stay scam safe.

And you can phone the ATO on 1800 008 540.

Loving this episode?

Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts

And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.

CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:

With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest

INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack

INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud

Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips

Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Chapters:

00:00 Fraud Prevention Urgency: ATO, Tax Agents and Evolving Scam Risks

00:22 Intro - Jenny Wong - Tax Time 2026

00:39 Jade Hawkins (ATO) on the Counter Fraud Program Overview

01:08 What Is the ATO Counter Fraud Program? $187M Investment Explained

01:17 Proactive Fraud Detection: Real-Time Data, Analytics and System Protections (ATO)

03:20 ATO App Security Updates: How Taxpayers Can Stay Safe with myID

03:30 Real-Time Alerts, Account Locking and Fraud Prevention via ATO App

04:01 Case Study: Stopping Tax Refund Fraud Using ATO App Notifications

05:49 ATO "Verify Call" Feature: Detecting Scam Calls and Social Engineering

06:14 ATO App Tools for Taxpayers: myDeductions, Pre-Fill Data, Refund Tracking

07:25 How Tax Agents Can Protect Clients: myID, ATO App and Fraud Awareness

08:21 Cybersecurity Best Practices: MFA, Strong Passphrases, Software Updates

10:23 ATO Resources and Training: Tax Fraud Hub and Cybersecurity Modules

11:03 Current Scam Trends: PII Data Breaches and Identity Theft Risks (ATO Insights)

11:40 Fraud Targeting Tax Agents: Phishing, Malware and Credential Stuffing

13:48 What Happens If a Taxpayer Is Compromised? ATO Safeguards Explained

15:54 Final Advice from Jade Hawkins: Vigilance, ATO App and Strong Access Controls

16:23 Conclusion: Tax Time 2026 Fraud Risks and Key Takeaways for Agents