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Recently retired Colorado College professor of Creativity and poet, Jane Hilberry is a master teacher, a kind listener and an out-of-the-box thinker. We have a beautiful, challenging, life-affirming conversation about creativity -- What it is, How to teach it, Where it's found -- in schools, in one-on-one dialogue (conversation is improv!) and in relationships -- including the relationships we have with ourselves.
We also talk about each person’s essential essence (core beauty), and the benefits of art-making for mental health plus a healthier shared world.
Listen to it a few times over!
Show Notes:
Book: "Inciting Joy," by Ross Gay - Chapter 11, Dispatch from the Ruins (on education)
Book: "The Creative Act: A Way of Being," by Rick Rubin
David Brooks video interview (on listening to/seeing others), re: his book, "How to Know a Person"
Book: "The Trickster’s Hat," by Nick Bantock
Japanese TV Show: “Old Enough”
The Holistic Psychologist
Amy Poehler's MasterClass: "Prepare to Be Unprepared" (about Improv)
Exponential Impact Pitch Night
Non Book Club Book Club
Recorded June 19, 2024 at Studio21c with Jane Hilberry and Heila Rogers
My friend Theunette, although a finance professional, loves space. She reads "Scientific American" for fun, and I love hearing her talk about how stars are formed and other similar subjects. Some of our conversations about these topics have then flowed into rich discussions about the meaning of life, and healing. These talks almost always make me grab around for poetry that I've encountered; which comes the closest of anything
Art “goes there,” like that.
It is able like nothing else, to embody and express the deepest truths.
Enjoy, as we explore together. Talking in this way is one of my favorite things. A creation in itself, these conversations.
Alllll the Show Notes (quite a few this time) -->
"The Man," song by Taylor Swift
Such Singing in the
Winter Poem by
Excerpt of “It’s strange about stars” from Sun Up by
What We Need Is Here
[Poems gleaned from the Colorado Vocal Arts Ensemble Wintersong concert in Colorado Springs, Colorado, December 2023]
“At some point in life the world's beauty becomes enough. You don't need to photograph, paint, or even
“If you surrendered to the air, you could ride it.”
“Beauty was not simply something to behold; it was something one could do.”
“All water has a perfect memory and
{The movie character of "Olaf" in Frozen}
Psalm 136.9 (from the Bible, my own personalized version)
When they saw the star, the sight filled them with intense joy.
Matthew 2.10 (Bible - Weymouth New Testament version)
Additional quotes from:
"On the Origin of Time: Stephen Hawking’s Final Theory,"
"Astrophysics for People In A Hurry," by Neil deGrasse
[Recorded at Studio916 PPLD in Colorado Springs on February 24, 2024 with Theunette Antill, Heila Rogers]
We talk about CONO: Building Neighborhood Networks - Sara is ED, and what more neighborhood connections through art could look like; her jazz pop-ups business, Dizzy Charlie's Live Jazz and why she started it; and "glimmer" experiences with music + community.
He{Art}space's Patreon
Fannie Mae Duncan
Thrive Network
Old Colorado City Partnership
Music Credit:
Getting It Right by Holly Williams
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/holly-jones/getting-it-right
License code: JFSPWLIG1BUEXEKC
Recorded at Studio21C February 2, 2024 - Sara Vaas, Heila Rogers
Misconceptions regarding trauma: My thoughts. People think it's rare, that it's not applicable to them, that words don't matter only war experiences, that someone can't be in a crisis and also confident. What is, "little t" and "big T" trauma? The concept of Trauma Chemo -- and healing from adverse life experiences. The results of rewarding dominance and narcissism in our society. How addiction recovery can mean new neural pathways. What He{Art}space is for.
He{Art}space's Patreon
(artist Thomas Kinkaide)
Music Credits:
Getting It Right by Holly Williams & Electric Island by All Good Folks
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/holly-jones/getting-it-right
License code: JFSPWLIG1BUEXEKC
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good-folks/electric-island
License code: NZW5MOLCE3BDK8QU
Although we hope it is helpful and inspiring, the information contained in this podcast is for generalized educational purposes and/or is the expression of opinion only. This podcast is not a substitute for professional medical advice or services. Please seek out appropriate professional support if needed.
Recorded 10/26/23 Heila Rogers
We discuss how anger is a reasonable response to being hurt and also a necessary part of the healing process. How we learned to identify, feel and express it (and other feelings) appropriately and safely. Realizing we're not a bad person for having anger. The relationship of anger to grief. When Jesus was angry. Judging others' anger. Recognizing wrong. Physical movement to release old feelings.
Hiding our true selves in different ways. Continuing to seek authentic connection; and addressing our own old psychological programming.
Mentions:
Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, by Emily Nagoski, PhD, Amelia Nagoski, DMA
Peter Levine books
Trümmerfrauen: The women who cleared the rubble
No No No (song) Cherokee Death Cats
The Body Keeps The Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma, by Bessel Van Der Kolk
The ACES quiz (Adverse Childhood Experiences)
Mackenzie Morrison story
Donate to He{Art}space on Patreon
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu created-especially-for-us at PPLD's Studio916 piano music in our intro entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope."
Music Credit:
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/luke-moseley/reflection
License code: TSGS0546VSZNJDOX
(Recorded June 4, 2022) Jules Thompson, Heila Rogers
This podcast is simply people talking. It’s people
We discuss what is defined as “masculine” and what as “feminine” in our society. And we talk about balance in life – what balance means in a healthy relationship. And what balance has to do with dance.
Thanks to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the intro piano music.
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/all-i-need
License code: XFIFYRWMAIK7XGI9
This episode contains a reference to suicide. If you need
What is it like to change for the better as a person, and then have society still try to stuff you back into a "perpetrator" box?
We want to turn the tide from accusation and shaming, to mutual, widespread restoration.
"This world is beautiful... We're here temporarily, what can we do to (make it better)." - CC
Building versus Destroying
Getting along as women and men, together. Related harmful gender-related messages.
Talking about sexual abuse; talking about everything in order to bring subjects into the light.
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu, created-especially-for-us at PPLD's Studio916
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/all-i-need
License code: XFIFYRWMAIK7XGI9
Gabrielle Simmons is a current real-estate investor, and a former over-the-road truck driver. Plus, she is a survivor of a mutually-toxic relationship in which she hastens to add she was not guiltless herself. We talk about what it
Support He{Art}space on Patreon
Mentions:
@InvestorGirlBritt
Sisters of Benet Hill Monastery human trafficking prevention & awareness
Music Credits:
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/all-i-need
License code: XFIFYRWMAIK7XGI9
Terryjosiah Sharpe – original piano composition and performance for Women's Words, “Chaos & Hope”
Recorded on Sept. 16, 2022 at Pikes Peak Library District Studio 21c
(Heila Rogers, Gabrielle Simmons)
Heila Update (for 2023): (I'm) Still Here
A heartfelt message from me, after a long time away (for
I end with this poem by Edith Södergran:
Forest Lake
I was alone on a sunny shore
Translated from Swedish by Stina Katchadourian
TV shows:
Ted Lasso
Shrinking
UnPrisoned
Abbott Elementary
(Recorded 6/23 at PPLD Studio21c - Heila Rogers)
Jules is a major Wonder Woman-fangirl which we talk about – a speaker, and a writer. Her multi-authored collaborative book, Uncovering the Brave Within: Vulnerable Stories from Female Impact Leaders came out in paperback in March of 2023.
We talk about some of her journey of the last few years, discovering herself, unburying her real identity and separating it from messages received in an abusive family of origin and an abusive marriage. We talk about digging deep into past pain in order to root it out, feel it, and express the related feelings – sometimes even in public.
We discuss more about what it means to, “Do the work."
And that without good relationship attachment we will die.
Show Notes:
Wonder Woman movie (2017)
Gabor Maté
This Is Me (musical) Keala Settle behind-the-scenes video
Jules Thompson on Facebook
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu created-especially-for-us at PPLD's Studio916 piano music in our intro entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope."
Music from Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good-folks/everybody-know
License code: TCCFDGLG1RCTYMTG
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/all-i-need
License code: XFIFYRWMAIK7XGI9
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/hometown
License code: U5ESYKFAO2UN3UCH
(Recorded June 4, 2022) Jules Thompson, Heila Rogers, Jenny Decker
This podcast is simply people talking. It’s people
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