Word of The Witnesses: 12 Monkeys Rewatch Podcast

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March 14, 2019 Never Meet Your Heroes - 12 Monkeys 2.06
Beep & CC are joined by “May We Geek Again” co-host Jo to discuss Episode 2.06 “Immortal”
Jo enters the gauntlet
How film & television influence our perception of historical eras
This episode looks like a 1970s film
The many meanings of “Immortal”
Cole “Coles” so hard at hide & seek
How children view morality
We are set up to believe Kyle Slade
Moral choices & partiality
1970s films & disillusionment
12 Monkeys: a series of portraits of New York City
Welcome to Fear City: NYC during the Summer of 1975
The rise of serial killers during the 1970s
Kyle Slade wants to be the hero of this story
Pancakes are delicious!
Oh, Victoria
“You’re about to father a child & change the course of history”
The perfect moral quandary for Ramse & Cole
A moral dilemma loop
The ethics of being a bystander
This episode is a study in what factors affect moral choices
Detective Damato sure isn’t Agent Gale
Cole “Coles” so hard again
Your life is not your own anymore
Kyle Slade: true & false
Olivia delivers the opening argument in favor of the red forest…
…and Shaw will deliver the closing argument
Cassie & epic foreshadowing
“He made it sound almost beautiful.”
“Death is everything.”
The ebb & flow of Cassie & Jennifer’s friendship
2 hr 13 min
March 07, 2019 Roadtrippin' - 12 Monkeys 2.05
Beep & CC are joined by Aimee to discuss 2.05 “Bodies of Water”
Aimee enters the gauntlet, to be continued….
Roadtrips with snacks...and without snacks
Future Olivia & Future Jennifer set this day in motion
Bodies & water
The many layers to Old Jennifer & Cole meeting
This what happens when you play God and you don’t know your lines
The magical comedy of jealousy
Debate club: Deacon’s proposed execution
Boys’ road trip!
Weapons grade irony
The epic return of Deacon
Aimee’s Ode to Tom Noonan
Witness Olivia & Old Jennifer are playing three dimensional chess
Jennifer playing the role of the idealized independent woman
Girls’ road trip!
Medication, fictional primaries & real world mental illness
Olivia co-opted Jennifer’s childhood trauma
“Maybe that crazy can help save the world”
Casa de Childhood Trauma & the drawings
Daughters without mothers
The evolving significance of the Word of the Witness Pivotal turning points for Jennifer & Olivia
The Pallid Man’s moment of triumph is the beginning of his downfall…
...and the rise of Olivia the Witness
This day is a story about corrected emotional experiences of trauma
Casserole: important moments for a romantic slow burn Cole is a different kind of sci fi “hero”
Symbolic steps forward
2 hr 50 min
February 28, 2019 Wells Actually - 12 Monkeys 2.04
Beep & CC are joined by Erin to discuss 2.04 “Emergence”
Please indulge our mini-rant at network television
The many meanings of emergence
Cycles of mercy & retribution
Pour one out for Ramse’s other nut
Faith, reason & relationships
We are all Old Jennifer now
The red tea is explained
An Ode to Dr. Eckland: a chicken & egg story of intimacy
Explorers & finding freedom in being wrong
Break on through to the other side
The visions, the series finale & the great red forest debate
The 1944 loop & free will
I Should Not Be Seeing You
“A child is something I cannot have”
Overlapping cycles of parenthood
Questions about the 1971 death of Mantis
Olivia, The Pallid Man & faith
Cassie, Ramse & Cole: loyalty, vengeance & forgiveness
“I want to help….Maybe one day.”
Agent Gale is a midcentury Fox Mulder
Cole’s emergence as a hopeful leader
Jennifer’s journey to find a purpose
Wells actually
2 hr 8 min
February 21, 2019 Getting Used to the New Normal - 12 Monkeys 2.03
Beep & CC are joined by Crystal to discuss 2.03 “One Hundred Years”
02:15 Crystal enters the gauntlet
08:25 2.03 One Hundred Years
We’re traveling to the past! And damn this show looks good
100 years, gas masks & record players
Getting Used to the New Normal
All the reasons why Cassie really does not want to “take a ride”
Let’s acknowledge that James Cole actually came up with a plan
A few minutes vs. two months
This James Cole is smooth as heck….
...but yeah Cole, she is still mad
What the photograph represented to Cassie vs. Cole
Hello Agent Gale! We forgot that we didn’t love you at first!
Loops within the loop
Mantis: mythology building & a familiar flair for the dramatic
The fervor of the cult of the 12 Monkeys
The many layers to the Casserole argument & how it sets this show apart
Guess who else can’t “do what needs to be done”?
Tommy Crawford & building the mythology of primaries
Mantis & Tommy: Casserole celebrity sighting!
Listening to the primaries now that we know the puzzle from above
The burden that primaries bear
Tommy, Old Jennifer, Mantis & free will
Debate club: Ramse’s Almost Execution
WWII Columbia University & The War Bureau of Consultants
“The Liberty Bell March” easter egg
“Libet’s Delay”: time, memory & free will
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court
2 hr
February 14, 2019 Not Every Caterpillar Becomes a Butterfly - 12 Monkeys 2.02
Beep & CC are joined by Alisha to discuss 2.02 “Primary”
Everything changes, Cole: both time & characters
“Our fates are intertwined”
Otis Redding & the monologue redux
The metamorphosis of “not every caterpillar becomes a butterfly”
The rooftop: a series of intertwined choices
The most awkward car ride ever
Debate Club #1: the proposed execution of Ramse & Jennifer
You forgot the mission: philosophical & personal conflict
Debate Club #2: Cassie & Jones choose to abandon Cole
The reappearance of lost sons & daughters
Ramse remembers the Art of War
The ever evolving story of Theodore William Deacon
Cassie & Deacon: did you ship it?
I’m sorry you weren’t a part of my reality
Daughters who raised a daughter
Primaries & the desperation to stop the noise
Many acts of mercy
Being single isn’t the end of the world...but you two together is
Home is 607
I found my purpose
So much is different
What I am is because of me
Saving someone made the difference
2 hr 37 min
February 07, 2019 Down the Rabbit Hole - Minisode
Beep & CC are joined by Alisha to discuss the parallels between 12 Monkeys and Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland & Through the Looking Glass
A critique of “new” math & time as a fourth dimension
Circular stories with no end or beginning
What happens when time is missing?
A forever tea party in chaos
Riddle me this
Caterpillars & butterflies
Alice doesn’t “fit” in the Wonderland
Time & memory
Life is But a Dream
1 hr 7 min
January 31, 2019 Welcome to the Future, Dr. Railly - 12 Monkeys 1.13 - 2.01
Beep & CC are joined by Meagan to discuss 1.13 “These Arms of Mine” & 2.01 “Year of the Monkey”
1.13 These Arms of Mine
Fate vs. Free will
Pour one out for Aaron Marker
Cassie vs. Cole POV debate #1
Foreshadowing the Casserole emotional divide
Easter eggs!
Jennifer’s first performance
Cassie, Jennifer, and... unicorns
Olivia & Ramse
Hello Dr. Elliott Jones!
Green to red
The idea of “home”
Your one vs. my one
Jones has zero f*cks to give
Cassie vs. Cole POV debate #2
Ramse & the consequences of not being the protagonist
A slightly enthusiastic celebration of an epic romantic moment
Time travel as a heightened exploration of relationships
There’s nothing more powerful than fate
Welcome to the future, Dr. Railly
2.01 Year of the Monkey
Season 2 gets right what so much of tv gets wrong
A masterful slow burn romance
An exceptional execution of a time jump
A primary fairytale that begins at the end
An epic start to an epic season
Olivia’s crumbling faith
Mr. Bates pulls one over on us
We depend on mother nature and she depends on us
Becoming a better man
The bromance reconciles, for now
Red Forest foreshadowing
Grieving who we were only gets in the way of who we need to become
Hello, Mantis!
Cassie & the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day
The Theodore Deacon guide to surviving the post apocalypse
Chasing White Rabbits: 12 Monkeys & Alice in Wonderland
Jennifer is tragically shackled by her adopted purpose
Saving a life: a more hopeful take on post-apocalyptic drama
The Jennifer & Cole mentorship ouroboros & choice
Cassie vs. Cole POV Debate #3
Casserole is a rare exploration of what happens “after”
2 hr 57 min
January 21, 2019 Whoopsiedoodle! Amanda Schull & Terry Matalas Interview
Amanda Schull & Terry Matalas join us to discuss the season 1 finale and Cassie's series long journey.
2 hr 5 min
January 10, 2019 She Was Watching - 12 Monkeys 1.12
Beep & CC are joined by Meagan to discuss 1.12 “Paradox”.
Meagan enters the gauntlet of questions
Embracing life’s mysteries
High concepts grounded in character & emotional catharsis
Finding hope in love
An ode to Cassie
1.12 Paradox
Jones: science as armor
Speaking of paradoxes, hello messengers!
It’s the heart that sustains us
Dr. Jones, meet Dr. Railly
Cassie & agency
Evolution takes many forms
“I had two mothers”
Jennifer uncaged
Jennifer & Cassie: evolving identities
Cassie & Jones: intersecting journeys of motherhood
On this show even a garage is emotional
Family roll call #1
The family motto
Look into his eyes
Memories & the meaning that we give them
Family roll call #2
The outline for “One Minute More”
Signposts for Cole’s character arc
What the Pallid Man & Cole have in common
Time Jesus!
Recontextualizing the past
Casserole: the perfect pacing of a slowburn
2 hr 4 min
January 01, 2019 Dear Traveler - 12 Monkeys 1.10-1.11
Beep & CC are joined by Selina Wilken from Hypable to discuss 1.10 “Divine Moves” & 1.11 “Shonin”
Selina enters the gauntlet of questions
Why 12 Monkeys is so special
Activate #TeamRamse!
Social media’s impact on how we watch tv
Red Forest spiral
1.10 Divine Move
What is a “divine move”?
What we do for the people that we love
Jones vs. Ramse: are they really that different?
Ramse’s moral compass
Culpability & fate
Ramse’s POV sets 12 Monkeys apart
Not the date night Aaron was hoping for
Casserole: “You’re alive” vs. “So are you”
Unacceptable losses
Remembrance of Things Past
We’d get drunk too, Cassie
Don’t Fear the Reaper
Cassie & Cole: subverting traditional emotional gender roles on tv
Hello Old Jennifer!!!
“Someone someday will judge us…’
1.11 Shonin
Possible meanings of “Shonin”
That thing in a box
Dear Traveler
Ave Verum Corpus
Another daughter in a box
CLIMB THE STEPS RING THE BELL
Water & rebirth
This is not the mother daughter moment that we ordered
Jennifer & Olivia: two daughters in need of a purpose
Our children “make us”
“My last breath will be here.”
2 hr 34 min