This is really Podcast 14b as we had a little hiccup on the original #14. Regardless, the guys talk phones, the week in Trump, get a little religious, and geek out on Star Wars and Star Trek.

The guys talk the Chicago River, Black Friday, virtual marketing, Chiraq, way too much politics, vendor scum, video games, and Star Wars.

The guys talk service desk pilot, John’s travels, web address registrations, the end of Betamax, and vendor scum.

The guys talk about missing a week (what!?!?), weddings, Dion’s prior 96 hours, and transformation.

The Guys talk Service Desk timing, Self-driving cars, marathon calls, too many men in China, and of course, vendor scum.

The guys talk email domains, Toledo and concerts, hot towns, Star Wars, and our running segment, vendor scum!

The guys talk Playboy’s future, Randy Quaid, Chinese war games, #BusinessTravelerProblems, movies, and more.

The guys talk departures, Microsoft device announcements, vendor calls, baseball, among other things.

The guys talk transformation, robotics, yelp, college football, and other fun stuff

The guys talk projects, travel, the Martian, and . . .beer.