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- S2 Ep 10: Working With Industry Professionals
This week, Eva and Katryn talk about the ins and out of communicating with industry professionals--like the details of signing with agents and editors, and communication expectations after you get a book deal. Your ultra-nerdy hosts blow their own minds as they realize that publishing a book is EXACTLY like The Fellowship of the Ring.
Cross-stitchable line of the week: “We can’t see your bear” -Ben (Katryn’s husband)
*Content warnings: Light discussion of trauma/anxiety
*NOTE: We are taking a mid-season hiatus until June 2023!
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Eva’s life-changing jeans!
Katryn’s debut, Drew Leclair Gets a Clue is challenged in Alabama
Eva finally saw Super Mario! Check out the amazing “Peaches” music videos from the movie and from Jack Black himself.
Ally Malinenko had a great quote about publishing. Check out her books!
Lauren Magaziner is Katryn’s first blurb author AND an awesome MG fantasy and mystery author.
Nicole Collier shared many invaluable tips about what to ask your publisher after the ink is dry.
Read the NYT interview with John Green about working with Julie Strauss-GabelFollow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
Our Websites:
www.evadeslauriers.com
www.katrynbury.com
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen!
1 hr 35 min - S2 Ep 9 Our POVs on POV
This week, Eva and Katryn dive back into craft with a discussion about POV: 1st, 2nd and 3rd--but also past vs. present and multiple perspectives. Katryn manages to promote the new Super Mario Brothers movie better than her own book, and Eva dishes about her new reality show addiction.
Eva’s weekly cross-stitchable quotation: “Emotion is my north star.”
*Content warnings: discussion of bias and cultural appropriation in publishing
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Buy Drew Leclair Crushes the Case! Also, please rate and/or review on Amazon and tell Barnes and Noble to carry it in stores.
Eva’s new trash TV obsession!
Watch Bowser’s torch song for Princess Peach, then watch Jack Black’s music video, THEN watch Katryn sing it on the way to her book launch.
Drew Leclair Gets a Clue is facing a challenge from “concerned parents.” Boooo! Read banned books!
Our Books:
DREW LECLAIR Mysteries
I WISH YOU WOULD
Follow us on Instagram:
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@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen
1 hr 8 min - S2 EP8 Writing While Neurodivergent: Anxiety & Panic Attacks
This week, Eva and Katryn start the first part of their writing while neurodivergent series. In the first part, the discussion focuses on anxiety (not technically under the ND umbrella but many of the symptoms are assumed to be anxiety by medical professionals), trauma, invasive thoughts, and panic attacks. This is a more serious episode (although there are plenty of laughs too!) so please note the content warnings and listen with care. Highlights include Katryn coming hard for the sheer number of affairs in adult lit, and Eva being so philosophical you might need to cross-stitch the whole episode.
*Content warnings: Brief mentions of suicide, self-harm, involuntary hold (51-50), sexual offenders (Woody Allen) & abuse, trauma, invasive thoughts, panic attacks, and depression.
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Drew Leclair Crushes the Case gets a starred review from Kirkus!
Eva talks about The Wisdom of Anxiety
Katryn is vindicated about adult lit and affairs by Owl at the Library!!! (P.S. Don’t come for her, affair community!)
ICYMI, here’s Eva’s amazing T-Swift concert look
Some background on the 5150 hold
An interview with Daniel Kwan where he talked about how his ADHD was crucial in being able to weave the narrative in the film.
Lopez from Animal Crossing is everything
I really hope Eva’s anxiety isn’t like this scene in Buffy (@45 second mark)
Our Books:
DREW LECLAIR Mysteries
I WISH YOU WOULD
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen.
1 hr 36 min - S2 E7 Breaking Down The Blocks
This week, Eva and Katryn discuss the phenomenon that apparently doesn’t exist for 4 out of 5 cis white dude millionaires: writer’s block. Eva discusses how previously blocked stories can become a “second chance romance” and she and Katryn compare fangirl notes on Taylor Swift and The X-Files.
*Content warnings: Depression and anxiety
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Katryn’s CMORDs were many, but this was certainly the longest.
Check out Eva’s pitch-perfect Swiftie outfit
Check out the very free-form book that talks about harnessing creativity: The Creative Act
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Our Books:
DREW LECLAIR Mysteries
I WISH YOU WOULD
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen.
1 hr 19 min - S2 Ep6 Querying Part 2: Rejection
In part two of Write Where It Hurts’ series on querying, Eva and Katryn discuss how to navigate everyone’s least favorite part of the path to publishing: rejection. Eva and Katryn appear to pull back from yet another Gilmore Girls tangent but this week’s outtake suggests otherwise. This episode contains multiple love letters to the irreplaceable Chelsea Eberly.
*Content warnings: Religion, depression
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Formation: a song by Beyonce
Remember to add I Wish You Would on Goodreads or Tinker Bell will DIE.
Meg Cabot’s awesome blog about her many rejections
Check out our agency sib’s fantastic fantasy duology, Emily Thiede’s This Vicious Grace and This Cursed Light
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen
1 hr 17 min - S2 Ep5 Querying Clinic Part 1: The Basics
You asked for a whole episode dedicated to querying--and you got it! This week, Eva and Katryn start a two-part series on querying and rejection. In part one, they discuss how to craft a query letter, picking the right agent, tactics of sending queries in batches, and much more! Stay tuned to the end to hear the query letters that landed them their agents!
NOTE TO NEW LISTENERS: This episode is slightly different than our usual format. If this is your first time, we recommend starting with an earlier episode (like last week’s) to get an idea of our usual style.
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Agent Barbara Poelle discusses “The Hook, The Book, & The Cook”
Manuscript Wish List Database
#DVPit: an amazing pitch contest for marginalized creators that got both Eva and Katryn the interest that led to an agent.
This blog by agent John Cusick shows a great equation for a perfect short and sweet query.
Jane Friedman’s amazing blog on how to write a query letter
Query Shark has a huge amount of examples, with notes from an agent to help you see what works.
Use Query Tracker to see if an agent is currently open, or check author comments to get an idea of their usual response time.
If an agent asks you for THE CALL, check out Jim McCarthy’s amazing advice on what to ask.
Facebook is meh, but Kidlit 411 is a great group where aspiring authors can share queries and get feedback.
Writing queries is HARD! Katryn used editorial services to help her with some of her queries. She recommends Julia Weber and Katherine Locke.
Buy Katryn’s debut, Drew Leclair Gets a Clue and add Eva’s upcoming novel, I Wish You Would, on Goodreads!
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen
1 hr 34 min - S2 E4 Talking About Tropes
Eva and Katryn talk tropes this week--from the tropes we adore, to the ones we avoid. So often, trope is used as synonymous with cliche, but Write Where it Hurts flips the script. Eva spills the SAG award tea and Katryn once again tries to be a one-woman spokesperson for the little known 1960’s Dick Van Dyke film, Fitzwilly.
*Content warnings: (Non-explicit) discussion of least favorite and traumatizing tropes such as pet death, unexpected pregnancy, and rape storylines.
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The meaning behind our subtitle and background on our epic ship of Mary Poppins and Bert
Listen to our “Seducing the Creative Spirit” playlist on Spotify!
Nobody knows that this is the BEST Christmas movie but it is!!!
Greatest movie transformation/ makeover montage of all time right HERE
Check out the red carpet looks Eva talks about at the SAG awards!
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
Our Websites:
www.evadeslauriers.com
www.katrynbury.com
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen.1 hr 24 min - S2 Ep3 Vulturing The Trunk
Eva and Katryn honor devoted listener and Katryn’s best friend Karim’s birthday with a longstanding episode request: VULTURING THE TRUNK! In this episode, they talk all about trunked manuscripts--from self-care around leaving a book behind, to resurrecting books you thought were lost. Eva discusses retrieving scenes and ideas from her “story morgue” (spooky!) and Katryn finally cries while recounting a scene from Clifford Takes a Trip.
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- Don’t lose track of your trunked manuscripts like these famous authors!
- If you haven’t yet, check out Eva’s new author website!
- Katryn is obsessed with Worf
- Eva is writing a broody hero--enjoy a sneak peek to our next episode by exploring this trope
- Katryn tries to follow her first TikTok trend about Song of Achilles and breaks all the rules--but can you blame her?! Look at Clifford the Big Red Dog! Look at his face!
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
Our Websites:
www.evadeslauriers.com
www.katrynbury.com
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen
1 hr 21 min - S2 EP 2 Time Drought
This week, Eva and Katryn talk about how much “invisible” time is taken up by writing (social media, running a website, emailing with your editorial team, etc.) and the toll it can take on the life you led before publishing. Eva gets philosophical about the sacrifices necessary when pursuing your dream, and Kate also gets philosophical, but while talking like a Ferengi.
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- Add Eva’s debut, I Wish You Would, on Goodreads!
- Listen to Katryn’s burn-it-all-down Rage playlist on Spotify.
- Check out Eva’s debut author headshot!
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen
1 hr 8 min - S2 EP 1 From Seedling to Story
In the season two premiere of Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn go back to basics, talking about craft and how story ideas get developed. Katryn talks about her mysterious Victorian ghost again, and Eva talks about when she gets those first butterflies-in-her-stomach crush feelings about an idea. (Apologies for the fuzzy audio in the first three minutes--we recorded this on a cold night and forgot to turn off the space heater!)
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- Sign up for Eva’s newsletter on her new website!
- Y’all are going to have THIS in your head now. Sorry/not sorry!
Follow us on Instagram:
@evadeslaurbooks
@katrynwrites
@writewhereithurtspod
*Tune in next time for another episode powered by broken hearts, belly laughs (and bourbon). Don’t forget to RATE, REVIEW, and SUBSCRIBE wherever you listen
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About Write Where It Hurts
From the publisher's feed
Join Eva and Katryn as they laugh (and sometimes cry) about writing, publishing, and the courage it takes to live your story. Tune in for a safe space in which two writers frankly discuss the mental…
health issues that can come up when navigating everything from querying, to submission, to publishing for the first time. Katryn and Eva offer laughs and real-talk inspiration for writers at each stage of their journey. Join in the conversation with Write Where it Hurts and remember: it’s not just you!