Wall Street Journal columnist Jason Riley joins Margaret Hoover to discuss his new book, “The Affirmative Action Myth,” in which he argues that Black people were progressing at a faster rate before racial preferences became widespread in the 1970s.

The prominent conservative also discusses racial disparities in education, saying that universities that pursue diversity just want “window dressing,” and that race-based college admissions policies have failed Black students. 

Riley cites evidence that promising Black students are mismatched with colleges where they end up struggling, and he responds to some of the counter-arguments against his position. He also explains why he doubts class-based affirmative action would be more effective than discriminating by race.

When it comes to the future of race in admissions, Riley likens affirmative action advocates to southern segregationists, and he predicts colleges will "try and cheat" to continue considering race in admissions despite the Supreme Court's ruling.

Riley also responds to Trump’s assault on universities, reflects on the administration’s deportation crackdown, and argues fixing racial disparities in colleges starts with fixing public schools.

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