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In this special international episode, UFC veteran Xavier Foupa-Pokam — known as Professor X — takes listeners on his unforgettable road to the UFC. A true pioneer of French MMA and one of the earliest members of the Snake Team under trainer Cyril Diabate, Foupa-Pokam details his transition from traditional karate to Muay Thai and mixed martial arts in the early 2000s, when the sport was illegal in France. Fighters trained in secret, competed under the guise of other disciplines, and often faced law enforcement interference at events.

With a professional career spanning more than 50 bouts and a verified record of 32-22-0, Professor X became one of the most traveled fighters of his era, competing primarily as the B-side in promotions across Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, and beyond. He shares stories from legendary events including Cage Rage in the UK, Jungle Fight in Brazil, and international tournaments, as well as his preparation with Dan Henderson’s Team Quest in the United States to mimic Anderson Silva. The conversation covers his UFC appearances at UFC 97 against Denis Kang and UFC 98 against Drew McFedries, plus memorable matchups against Paul Daley, Hayato Sakurai, Paulo Coelho, and more.
Foupa-Pokam also discusses the challenges of building French MMA from the ground up, the outlaw atmosphere of the early days, his 11 amateur fights before turning pro, and insights into fellow Cameroonian-French fighter Francis Ngannou. This episode highlights the passion, resilience, and global experiences that defined one of MMA’s most dedicated journeymen.

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0:00 MMA history podcast intro  
0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 
0:54 interview start 
1:14 part of the foundation for French combat sports
5:51 Karate fighters transitioning to MMA
8:56 Golden Trophy events 
10:06 Francis Ngannou vs Zoumana Cisse
15:33 training before first fight 
17:18 illegal amateur bouts in France 
19:09 issues with Law enforcement 
20:58 coming into fights as a B side 
25:31 Xavier Foupa vs Nelson Monteiro
27:00 Xavier Foupa vs David Pierre
29:49 Xavier Foupa vs Paul Williamson
31:02 Xavier Foupa vs Matt Ewin
32:29 research on opponents before fight 
34:10 Xavier Foupa vs Ferene Gancs
36:09 Xavier Foupa vs Poulo Coelho
37:47 French fighters vs BJJ black belts 
41:52 Cage Rage parties behind the scenes 
46:42 Xavier Foupa vs Martin Kampmann
48:53 Xavier Foupa vs John Oskar
52:33 Xavier Foupa vs Paul Daily
54:25 coming off 3 losses 
55:13 Xavier Foupa vs Jose Mata
59:40 Michael Bisping vs Cyrille Diabate 
1:02:08 Xavier Foupa vs Itamar Rosa
1:03:15 Xavier Foupa vs Ken Hamamura
1:04:04 Xavier Foupa vs Hoon Kim
1:06:42 Xavier Foupa vs Sol Gilbert
1:10:24 Xavier Foupa vs Ryuta Sakuri
1:13:08 Xavier Foupa vs Alex Reid
1:15:38 interactions with Lee Murray 
1:16:57 Xavier Foupa vs Tom Watson
1:17:28 Xavier Foupa vs Pierre Guillet
1:18:00 Xavier Foupa vs Murilo Rua
1:18:54 Cyrille Diabate vs Murilo Rua 
1:19:44 Far Eastern Modern Pancration Federation 
1:26:19 dealings with Wallid Ismail
1:27:03 training with Dan Henderson at Team Quest 
1:30:12 getting a phone call from the UFC 
1:31:51 interview wrap up 
1:35:28 outro/ closing thoughts

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