In episode 40 of the Xbox Expansion Pass (XEP)we welcome Creative Director and Founder of Sabotage Studios Thierry Boulanger to discuss his work with The Messenger. Microsoft's Phil Spencer has made bold statements on the belief in how gaming generations should change, and Ubisoft gifts us all with a sense of normalcy in 2020. Enjoy! 

The Xbox Expansion Pass (XEP) is a podcast dedicated to interpreting the goings on in the world of video games and analyzing how they impact the Xbox ecosystem. Luke Lohr, the InsipidGhost, plays host and discusses various topics throughout the industry. The guests on the show are meant to help gamers expand their knowledge of the gaming industry.

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