In this episode, we welcome Yeonmi Park to the show. She is a North Korean defector, human rights activist, and author of a bestselling memoir In Order to Live: A North Korean Girl’s Journey to Freedom (2015). She also has a new book out now called While Time Remains: A North Korean Defector’s Search for Freedom in America. In this interview, we discuss what it was like growing up in North Korea, how starvation played a role in her daily life, why North Koreans think the Kim family is divine, how she escaped to China, being sold into sex slavery while in China, the Christian missionaries that helped smuggle her out of China, escaping across the Gobi desert when the temperatures hovered around -40 degrees, finally making it to South Korea, the failed attempts to get used to freedom, her first time visiting the United States, when she was introduced to “wokeness” while at Columbia University, why most political/cultural/societal elites won’t help the people of North Korea, how she’s been able to maintain an optimistic attitude through her suffering, and much more. Let’s get into it… 

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