Are you dating, considering dating, or parenting someone through dating? This raw and heartfelt episode features Zach and Jill, along with their son Max Dasher and his girlfriend Annabelle, and is definitely worth a listen.

Zach and Jill discuss the beauty of marriage and God's design behind it as they unpack the reasons for delaying physical intimacy until you are in a covenant. Jill opens up about a past relationship and the tough decision she had to make, which led her into a season of loneliness.

This conversation is anything but surface-level. From Zach’s attempts to deter the two from dating to Max’s confession that he wished they had listened to his father’s advice, this episode is filled with real-life, applicable wisdom from a Christian perspective.

From broken-down cars and cell phones to kicked-down doors and family disagreements, this episode has it all. It’s often said that the best conversations begin with confession, and that’s precisely how this episode on marriage unfolds. The night before this recording, the Dasher family experienced a disagreement that adds a little extra color to this flavorful and enriching discussion, filled with topics such as: How do you know they’re the one? Do you need the perfect “setup” to get married? What does it mean to be known? Comparison, and what happens when the honeymoon phase is over.

Tune in as two young newlyweds discuss the joys and challenges of merging different family dynamics while learning to “leave and cleave.” Zach and Jill share crucial lessons they have learned through their mistakes and attempts to “pretend their way” through marriage.

If you’re looking for an honest conversation from two married couples who don’t claim to be experts but are simply pursuing the heart of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, then you won’t want to miss this episode. The fig leaves are coming off in this challenging yet truth-filled discussion, encouraging us to reach a greater level of knowing our spouse.

“What if I’ve blasphemed the Holy Spirit?” It’s a question that lingers in the minds of many believers—and honestly, it’s one we’ve heard more than a few times. It’s a question I have asked myself before. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Jill, Brandon, and I sit down to unpack this often misunderstood and deeply sobering topic.

We dig into what it actually means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, why this sin is treated differently in Scripture, and how the Holy Spirit’s role is to guide us into truth, reveal the heart of God, and continually call us to repentance. But when that voice is rejected—when God’s revelation is persistently denied—the consequences are eternal.

Throughout the conversation, we explore the importance of community in keeping our faith anchored. Our identity as believers isn’t just personal; it’s communal. We were never meant to walk this road alone, and when it comes to discerning truth, fighting spiritual apathy, and turning back to God, the support of a Christ-centered community is essential.

We also talk about the seriousness of sin and the danger of a heart that becomes hardened over time. A healthy fear of God is actually good for us; it keeps us spiritually alert and dependent on grace. But here’s the good news we keep coming back to: repentance is always available to those who seek it. The fact that you’re concerned about blaspheming the Spirit may be the very sign that your heart is still soft enough to respond.

Ultimately, we land where we always do—at the cross. Christ’s sacrifice is enough. No matter your past, no matter your questions, He is sufficient. So if this has been weighing on you, don’t carry it alone. Join the conversation, and let’s walk through it together.

Will you join the kingdom or stand against it? In this episode, we dive deep into a riveting confrontation in Mark 3, where Jesus boldly transitions from speaking truth to entering the fray. The simple act of healing a withered hand reveals profound truths about power, compassion, and community.

The Pharisees were not seeking truth; they were ready to accuse, embodying a spirit of suspicion that still breeds division today. This episode unpacks the polarizing relationship between the Pharisees and the Herodians, who found unity not in truth, but in enmity toward Jesus. Their anger over the healing stemmed from a fear of losing control.

Jesus, however, remains steadfast in his mission, moving with compassion and clarity. When they go low, he dives even deeper—into purpose, love, and the essence of life. The kingdom is not just about avoiding death; it invites us into unity under Christ.

Jill shares an eye-opening excerpt from her book, Shallow, highlighting the dangers of slander that poison the body. We discuss how Jesus redefines the Sabbath—not as a rule to break, but as an original intent to restore. His choice of twelve disciples isn't random; it's a reconstruction of Israel’s foundation, building a new temple that includes all of us.

This conversation will challenge how you view conflict, control, compassion, and the movement of God. It doesn’t need a strategy—just willing hearts to follow the King.

Why does rest feel so wrong? In a culture that idolizes hustle and busyness, the idea of Sabbath can feel almost rebellious. But Jesus said something stunning: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” What if rest wasn’t a command to obey but a gift to receive?
In this episode, Zach and Jill Dasher are joined by Brandon to unpack the deep spiritual roots of Sabbath—from Eden’s stillness to Jesus’ fierce defense of rest. Together, they peel back the layers of guilt, performance, and fear that keep us from ceasing.
You’ll hear:
    •    Why true Sabbath exposes us more than it soothes us.
    •    How we use busyness like fig leaves to cover our fear and shame.
    •    The danger of turning rest into another box to check—or a spiritual competition.
    •    What it means to “get rid” instead of “get right” before God.
    •    Why Sabbath is a mirror into our identity—and a doorway into real freedom.

This isn’t just a call to slow down. It’s a call to come home. To take off your sandals. To drop the comparisons. To be with God unguarded, unhurried, and unmeasured.

This is Sabbath as invitation, not obligation. A gift from the One who is never in a hurry and never in doubt. “You don’t get right to come near to God—you get rid.”  Join us as we rethink rest in a restless world. Not Yet Now Episode 33 will change the way you see your calendar—and your soul.

When a man of God like Phil Robertson finishes his race, the ripple effects can’t be measured in headlines — they’re found in legacy. In this special episode of Not Yet Now, Zach and Jill reflect on the life and passing of Zach’s Uncle Phil: a patriarch whose quiet obedience to King Jesus bore fruit across generations.

At a time when our culture dismisses the value of fathers, mothers, and generational wisdom, we pause to honor a man who defied that trend — not with power, but with steadfast love and truth. Phil’s life was rooted in the Genesis mandate to be fruitful and multiply, not just biologically, but spiritually — raising up sons, daughters, and disciples anchored in the Kingdom.

We talk about what it means to live slow in a microwave culture, to let wisdom ferment with time, and why the death of a faithful elder might just be one of the most countercultural moments we can celebrate. This is a call to remember. A call to honor. A call to live for something that outlives us.

"How do you start a house church?” It's one of the most honest—and loaded—questions we’ve been asked. In this episode of Not Yet Now, we open the door to a vulnerable, Spirit-led conversation about the church outside the institution. Through stories of hurt and healing, we wrestle with the tensions between tradition and authenticity, programs and presence, leadership and love. We explore what it means to gather in the name of Jesus, not around discontent, but around communion and community. If you’ve been burned, bored, or just burdened by church-as-usual, this episode invites you into something smaller, slower, and maybe more sacred.

Zach and Jill pull an all nighter and are reminded of their college ministry days after their kids host a worship night at their house. This leads to discussing the importance of intentional gatherings, and Brandon shares a story of God’s perfect timing involving a young man’s motorcycle trip from California to North Carolina.

Getting into the scripture, they reflect on the role of the Pharisees in the context of Jesus' teachings, particularly regarding fasting and spiritual practices.

The episode concludes with insights on the dynamics of church growth and the criticisms that often accompany it. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the abundant love of God, the importance of a growing relationship with Christ, and the call to embrace the newness of life in Him.

Jesus didn’t come for the healthy—but for the sick. If you’ve ever felt like you’re not enough, too far gone, or just quietly restless inside, this episode is for you.

We explore the story of Levi the tax collector, a man who traded integrity for status and ended up empty—until Jesus showed up. His calling reveals something powerful: your deepest longing isn’t a flaw. It’s a signpost. A sacred echo. A hunger that only the kingdom of God can satisfy.

This episode begins with a rite of passage trip to England for a young man named Lucas, leading into a conversation on manhood, identity, and how the gospel has shaped world history through broken people transformed by grace. We unpack how Jesus’ mercy overrides religious performance, how Levi’s response reflects the longing in all of us, and why the kingdom of heaven is already breaking into the ordinary moments of life.

Zach and Jill know what getting punched in the gut feels like. They kick things off by sharing a personal story — the kind that leaves you asking, what now? Sometimes the roof caves in (literally or figuratively), and it forces you to reckon with where real healing and connection are found.

We dive into why spiritual authenticity matters when the storms come, and why true ministry happens far beyond the walls of a church — it happens in homes, over meals, through honest friendships, and right in the middle of life's chaos.

As we walk through Mark’s account of the paralytic and the ripped-off roof, we unpack the profound moment when Jesus calls Himself the Son of Man — and claims the authority not just to heal broken bodies but to forgive sins. It’s a reminder that healing isn’t just physical; it’s a soul-deep restoration only Christ can offer.

We also talk about how easy it is to chase fulfillment in the wrong places, how divine disruption can open the door to faith, and how staying close to Jesus transforms everything — our healing, our identity, and our sense of purpose.

If you’re feeling the weight of unmet expectations or longing for something more authentic, this conversation is for you. There’s healing, there’s forgiveness, and there’s real life to be found — right at the feet of Jesus.

In this episode:

Mark 2 verses 1-12

Daniel 7 verses 13-14