Jill has almost no voice, and Brandon is out. Zach and Jill finish Mark 13 with one of the most discussed moments in the Gospels. They read Mark 13:24–37 and ask the big question: Is Jesus describing a future headline event, or is He pulling from Old Testament “apocalyptic” language and pointing to something the disciples would recognize—especially through Daniel 7? They pull the discussion to the ultimate not-yet now hope: Jesus is coming back, and while the Kingdom is still to come, it's also happening right now and we need to live like it.

Mark 13 has been turned into a hotbed for end-times debates for decades—but Jesus’ warning is far more grounded, far more urgent, and far more hopeful than most people realize. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon continue through Mark 13:14–23 and tackle one of the most debated sections in Scripture—not as an end-times scavenger hunt, but in the immediate context of Jesus’ warning about Jerusalem and the temple. From there, they zoom out to the bigger framework: the New Testament doesn’t treat “antichrist” like a single future superhero villain as much as a spirit that resists the incarnate Jesus and tries to pull faith back into fear, scapegoating, and speculation. The point isn’t panic—it’s participation. The temple in Jerusalem could be torn down, but the Kingdom can’t. 

In this episode, Zach and Jill begin a pivotal conversation through Mark 13. Not as a fear-fueled scavenger hunt for modern headlines, but as a text rooted in the immediate context: the temple’s coming down, and the birth of a new order in Christ. The Kingdom is here now, it’s time to participate in it.

Zach sits down with his oldest son, Max, for a father-and-son conversation about growing up, rooting in, and building a life that lasts. Max is 20, graduating soon, going on tour, and getting married. This moment of “everything is happening at once” becomes the backdrop for a deeper conversation about fear, responsibility, and the kind of commitments that form a man. It’s practical, honest, and full of real-life wisdom for anyone trying to build a life with integrity in a culture of shortcuts.

In Jesus’ final public teaching inside the temple, He exposes the scribes’ performance—long robes, public prayers, religious prestige—and then points to a poor widow with two small coins.

One is production. The other is posture.

In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through Mark 12:35–44 and ask what it means to follow a King who can’t be contained by religious systems or political power. The leaders clung to structure and status. The widow simply trusted and obeyed.

She had no leverage and no influence, yet Jesus calls her offering greater than all the rest. Faithful obedience. Open hands. Trust in a kingdom already reigning—even as the temple itself is about to fall.

Passage: Mark 12:35–44

What if the question “What matters most?” is actually a question about who God is—not just what we should do? In this episode, we discuss how easy it is to turn faith into a manageable system: doctrinal checklists, spiritual scorecards, and asking, "What's the minimum I have to get right?"” But Jesus pulls us into something deeper: not just knowledge about God, but communion with God that forms our loves, reshapes our desires, and makes obedience feel less like a burden and more like freedom.

The Sadducees try to trap Jesus with a “logical” argument about resurrection, but Jesus exposes the real problem: a closed imagination that can’t see beyond their system.

In Mark 12:18–27, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through why an argument can be coherent and still miss the truth. They also connect this moment to our current cultural shift: when information becomes infinite and "letter-only" thinking collapses. What remains is what was always important: communion, embodied life, the Spirit, and the resurrected Kingdom that cannot be shaken. 

Mark 12 confronts us with a sobering warning: what happens when stewards start acting like owners?

In this episode, Brandon and Zach walk through the parable of the tenants and unpack the subtle drift that can happen in any church or heart. What was entrusted to us can slowly begin to feel like it belongs to us. And when that shift happens, reverence fades and control creeps in.

They wrestle with the difference between cultivating what God is growing and trying to manufacture what only He can move. Revival isn’t something we engineer. Real Kingdom growth is slower, smaller, and more faithful than we often expect.

We’re grateful for the big moments. We just don’t want to disciple people into believing that God only moves in the big moments.

Passage: Mark 12

Zach admits something right out of the gate: he doesn’t do well with passive-aggressive people—and then Mark 12 confronts us with a Jesus who can feel surprisingly aggressive.

But is Jesus being harsh, or is He being clear?

In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon step into Mark 12 and talk about the tension every believer has to learn: leaving real room for the Holy Spirit to move, without trying to manufacture what only God can do.

They unpack how the parable in this chapter exposes a subtle drift: when people start acting like they own what they were only ever entrusted to steward, they forget where they came from.

They also talk about, why we have to learn to cherish the small moments of cultivation, not just the big, unforgettable ones

We’re grateful for the big moments. We just don’t want to train people to believe God only moves in big moments.

Passage: Mark 12

Who gets to claim authority—and how do we tell the difference between wicked power and godly authority?

In Mark 11:27–33, the religious leaders confront Jesus with a question meant to trap Him: “By what authority are you doing these things?” But instead of playing their game, Jesus exposes something deeper—how easy it is to use questions as weapons, and how hard it is to ask questions that actually lead to truth.

In this episode, Zach and Jill Dasher break down:

Why we can’t fall into the trap of thinking every kind of authority is evil

How Marxism functions like a false gospel when it promises salvation through a rival story

How Jesus didn’t consolidate power—He poured His Spirit into believers so the Kingdom can advance

Why questions that challenge your faith can actually make it stronger (instead of just building arguments)

Why it’s okay to not have an answer for everything happening in the world—if the love of Christ is showing up in your daily life

Jesus didn’t bring a kingdom that’s just a rule set. He brought a kingdom that’s a way of life—formed in us, lived through us, and spreading wherever ordinary believers walk in the Spirit.

Passage: Mark 11:27–33