We pause our regular rhythm to process the heartbreaking murder of Charlie Kirk. With raw honesty and deep sorrow, we reflect on the weight of evil, the fragility of life, and the hope we cling to in Christ’s victory over sin and death. Together we wrestle with the “not yet” of ongoing pain and injustice, while holding fast to the “now” reality that Jesus is King and His kingdom cannot be shaken. Our hearts are with Erica, their children, and the entire family as we mourn, pray, and look to the cross where justice, love, and hope converge.

A wilderness, five thousand hungry people, and a Shepherd who provides.

In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach, Jill, and Brandon dive into Mark 6 and the miraculous feeding of the five thousand. More than a story about multiplying bread and fish, this moment reveals the heart of God, the mission of Jesus, and the abundance of the Kingdom breaking into a desolate place.

Why does Jesus lead his disciples into the wilderness, a place of scarcity, only to meet them there with overflowing provision? What does this miracle reveal about His compassion, His teaching, and His role as the Good Shepherd? And how does it connect to the Exodus, Ezekiel 34, Psalm 23, and the greater story of God dwelling with His people?

The conversation explores:

• The “desolate place” as wilderness language, echoing Israel’s journey.

• Jesus fulfilling Old Testament prophecies as the true Shepherd of His people.

• The abundance of God’s Kingdom breaking through scarcity.

• The importance of Jesus’ teaching before the miracle of provision.

• How eschatology—our view of the end—shapes how we live in the present.

• Why the desert becomes Eden when the King is present.

The feeding of the five thousand is not just about physical bread; it’s about the Shepherd who restores, provides, and brings rest to His people. In Christ, scarcity becomes abundance, wilderness becomes green pasture, and every desolate place overflows with life.

Two banquets. Two kingdoms. Two radically different outcomes. In Mark 6, Jesus sends His disciples out with nothing but His authority—calling them to rely completely on God’s provision—while Herod throws a feast that spirals into manipulation, pride, and ultimately the death of John the Baptist.

Zach and Jill Dasher unpack this powerful contrast, showing how one kingdom leads to life and mission, while the other ends in corruption and death. Along the way, they trace connections to the Old Testament priesthood, the staff of Moses, and the call for believers today to live as God’s temple, empowered by His Spirit and set apart for His purposes.

Dumpster diving for unexpected treasures—you never know what you’ll find! In this episode, we dive into Mark 6:1-6, exploring Jesus’ rejection by His own people and what it teaches us about faith, doubt, and belonging. Along the way, we share wild stories from chaotic church gatherings like breakfast casseroles and reveal how sincerity beats cynicism in creating genuine connections. These conversations remind us that faith isn’t just a transaction—it’s a relational, transformational journey with God, who is our ultimate prize. Tune in for powerful insights, surprising stories, and a fresh take on life, faith, and miracles.

Did Zach’s failed mullet experiment end with a shaved head or a trip to the hair-plug clinic? In this episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, dive into Mark 5, a chapter packed with healing, faith, and the power of Jesus to bring life out of death.

From Jairus’s desperate plea to the bleeding woman’s bold interruption, the crew explores how Jesus meets people in moments of crisis, shows His sovereignty without rigidity, and reminds us that His path is never random but always purposeful. They unpack what it means to have faith in Jesus rather than the faith of Jesus, and why the difference matters when prayers feel unanswered.

This conversation touches everything from “big boy miracles” (like raising the dead) to the deeply relational heart of God—who stops for the hurting, who makes the unclean clean, and who invites us to bring our brokenness to Him. Along the way, they wrestle with sovereignty, suffering, unanswered prayers, and the danger of mistaking the signposts of healing for the ultimate destination.

Join Zach, Jill, and Brandon for a rich, honest conversation about faith, healing, and hope in the God who sees, knows, and loves His people.

From chains to freedom—imagine the most broken, the most unclean transforming into a powerful testimony of hope and healing. In this compelling episode, we dive into the powerful story of the demon-possessed man from Mark 5. Here, Jesus boldly crosses the sea into Gentile territory, intentionally bringing the Kingdom to those far from God, fulfilling prophecies and extending His grace to the nations.

Jill and I just wrapped up a transformative week with amazing kids from a local children’s home, and it struck me: our identity as children of God is where our true power lies. Much like that man who encountered Jesus, our pain can become our superpower.

As we explore this remarkable story, we’ll dive into the clash of light and darkness and how Jesus brings freedom to the captive. This isn’t just a random moment; it’s a moment of divine purpose as He reaches out to the unclean and breaks the chains of sin and shame.

Join us on this journey from shame to wholeness, embracing our identity as living temples filled with His light. This episode is all about the redemptive power of Jesus and His promise to bring His Kingdom to each of us in a chaotic world. Trust me, you won’t want to miss it!

As political storms rage around us, how can we find calm in the chaos? In this enlightening episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher and Brandon Hudson explore the tempestuous climate of our modern world, where even the simplest aspects of life are swept into the whirlwind of political drama. They delve into the importance of viewing individuals as unique contributors rather than getting lost in the ideological turbulence that seeks to divide us.
Against this cultural backdrop, the team emphasizes the necessity of fostering genuine conversations and deepening our relationships, reminding us that true connection transcends judgment. Recalling their church's inception during the tumult of COVID, they draw on the story from Mark 4, where Jesus calms the storm, challenging listeners to reflect on their future aspirations in the midst of uncertainty.
They examine the unparalleled authority of Christ and how a deeper understanding of God's character guides us toward authentic faith. Parallels between Jesus and biblical figures like Jonah and Moses emerge, highlighting that true grace comes from God's condescension, not our attempts to decipher Him.
Rich with compelling insights, this episode encourages listeners to trust in God's sovereignty during life's storms and to actively seek His presence. Join the conversation as Zach, Jill, and Brandon underscore the significance of suffering as a pathway to release grace into the world, reinforcing that our ultimate promise of peace is found in our relationship with God.
Tune in to realize how Jesus remains uncancelable amidst life’s trials, offering us a beacon of hope and the transformative power of faith and community.

Zach and Brandon set the record straight and dig deeper into what really bears fruit.

The hosts unpack the idea that all of Scripture—from Moses to Paul to the Gospels—is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and no part should be elevated over another. It’s not about red letters or black letters; it’s all God’s Word.

But this episode isn’t just about clarifying a misunderstanding—it’s about shifting the conversation entirely. Zach and Brandon challenge the tribalism in the Church today, where honest disagreement is often met with personal attacks and cancelation. Have we lost our ability to have authentic, grace-filled conversations?

They explore the temptation to rely on systems, theology, and frameworks as substitutes for real relationship with Christ. While helpful, these constructs can easily become distractions if they’re not rooted in the living presence of Jesus and the leading of the Spirit.

Throughout the conversation, the hosts return again and again to the image of the mustard seed, the wheat, and the scorched earth—reminding us that the Kingdom of God is not something we build or strategize into existence. It’s something God is already doing. We are simply invited in. Our job? Plant. Water. Tend. But God alone gives the growth.

They ask, what kind of soil is Christ calling us to be? Sometimes, it’s scorched earth where all of our striving ends—but it’s there the holy seed remains. It's not about what we can build for God, but about yielding to what He is building in us.

As they share personal stories of how their own church emerged from devastation—literally from the rubble of a hurricane—Zach and Brandon testify that obedience, not strategy, led to unexpected fruit. In the Kingdom, the way forward is not strength but surrender. Not control, but trust.

💬 “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone.” (John 12)
🌱 The call is not just to get your theology right—it’s to die to yourself.
Because on the other side of that surrender? Life. Real fruit. The Kingdom.

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Dive deep as the crew unpacks the significance of truly hearing and responding to God’s Word, the importance of disrupting the soil of our hearts, and the transformative power of faith. In this thought-provoking episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, alongside Brandon, engage in a lively discussion about the parallels between Isaiah 6 and the Parable of the Sower from Mark 4.

Why did Jesus choose to speak in parables? Why not just lay it all out clearly? Join the trio of Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, as they explore the stickiness of stories and how they shape our understanding of the world around us. Jesus’ parables invite us into a deeper relationship with Him—one that transcends mere knowledge.

We’ll discuss the importance of heart posture in receiving God’s message, the significance of being the right kind of soil, and how humility unlocks the secrets of His kingdom. Discover how God isn’t arbitrarily excluding people from His grace but rather inviting us into a heartfelt love relationship.

We'll also unpack how the promise of God finds fulfillment in the seed of Jesus Christ and explore the open secret of the kingdom: “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Tune in to learn how leaning in with an open heart can transform our lives and help us bear the fruit of love, joy, and peace.

Let’s embark on this journey together, seeking the heart of the matter and uncovering the richness of Jesus’ teachings!