"How do you start a house church?” It's one of the most honest—and loaded—questions we’ve been asked. In this episode of Not Yet Now, we open the door to a vulnerable, Spirit-led conversation about the church outside the institution. Through stories of hurt and healing, we wrestle with the tensions between tradition and authenticity, programs and presence, leadership and love. We explore what it means to gather in the name of Jesus, not around discontent, but around communion and community. If you’ve been burned, bored, or just burdened by church-as-usual, this episode invites you into something smaller, slower, and maybe more sacred.

Zach and Jill pull an all nighter and are reminded of their college ministry days after their kids host a worship night at their house. This leads to discussing the importance of intentional gatherings, and Brandon shares a story of God’s perfect timing involving a young man’s motorcycle trip from California to North Carolina.

Getting into the scripture, they reflect on the role of the Pharisees in the context of Jesus' teachings, particularly regarding fasting and spiritual practices.

The episode concludes with insights on the dynamics of church growth and the criticisms that often accompany it. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the abundant love of God, the importance of a growing relationship with Christ, and the call to embrace the newness of life in Him.

Jesus didn’t come for the healthy—but for the sick. If you’ve ever felt like you’re not enough, too far gone, or just quietly restless inside, this episode is for you.

We explore the story of Levi the tax collector, a man who traded integrity for status and ended up empty—until Jesus showed up. His calling reveals something powerful: your deepest longing isn’t a flaw. It’s a signpost. A sacred echo. A hunger that only the kingdom of God can satisfy.

This episode begins with a rite of passage trip to England for a young man named Lucas, leading into a conversation on manhood, identity, and how the gospel has shaped world history through broken people transformed by grace. We unpack how Jesus’ mercy overrides religious performance, how Levi’s response reflects the longing in all of us, and why the kingdom of heaven is already breaking into the ordinary moments of life.

Zach and Jill know what getting punched in the gut feels like. They kick things off by sharing a personal story — the kind that leaves you asking, what now? Sometimes the roof caves in (literally or figuratively), and it forces you to reckon with where real healing and connection are found.

We dive into why spiritual authenticity matters when the storms come, and why true ministry happens far beyond the walls of a church — it happens in homes, over meals, through honest friendships, and right in the middle of life's chaos.

As we walk through Mark’s account of the paralytic and the ripped-off roof, we unpack the profound moment when Jesus calls Himself the Son of Man — and claims the authority not just to heal broken bodies but to forgive sins. It’s a reminder that healing isn’t just physical; it’s a soul-deep restoration only Christ can offer.

We also talk about how easy it is to chase fulfillment in the wrong places, how divine disruption can open the door to faith, and how staying close to Jesus transforms everything — our healing, our identity, and our sense of purpose.

If you’re feeling the weight of unmet expectations or longing for something more authentic, this conversation is for you. There’s healing, there’s forgiveness, and there’s real life to be found — right at the feet of Jesus.

In this episode:

Mark 2 verses 1-12

Daniel 7 verses 13-14

What happens to our souls in a world increasingly run by artificial intelligence? In this episode of Not Yet Now, we’re diving headfirst into that question. I sit down with the crew to wrestle with what it means to grow, learn, and serve in a digital age that often values efficiency over authenticity. We unpack how easy it is to outsource not just our tasks, but our humanity—and why that should concern us.

But this isn’t just a conversation about machines and algorithms. We go deeper—into the heart of Jesus’ ministry. In a culture obsessed with power, position, and influence, Jesus flips the script. He doesn't climb the ladder. He kneels. He touches the untouchable. We reflect on the biblical stories of the sick, the isolated, and the forgotten—those living at the fringes—and what it meant for Jesus to step into their world, not with a program or policy, but with compassion and presence.

We also get raw about the real challenges of ministry—the weariness, the loneliness, and the temptation to perform rather than abide. But in that space, we rediscover the beauty of humility and the radical call to be the hands and feet of Christ in a world that’s hurting. This conversation is an invitation to slow down, press in, and remember: Jesus came not just to heal, but to restore our connection with God and with one another.

In this episode, the hosts reflect on the growth and evolution of the Not Yet Now podcast, emphasizing how community interaction has deepened the conversation around faith and spiritual renewal. Diving into Mark’s Gospel, the conversation unpacks Jesus’ unique and transformative authority—distinct from religious leaders—revealing His power over the cosmic battle between good and evil. The hosts explore spiritual warfare, the tangible reality of evil, and how fear can overwhelm us when confronted with darkness. Yet, they point decisively to Christ's ultimate authority and victory.

They further discuss how anchoring our identity in Christ provides clarity and strength in struggles with mental health, anxiety, and despair. Ultimately, the episode underscores the role of the church in responding to the Holy Spirit, who initiates revival, and equipping believers to live confidently in Christ’s authority—reminding listeners that the same power that raised Christ from the dead is actively at work within us today.

Zach and Jill are looking to re-do their premarital counseling after a spirited debate over the Final Four. It's an entertaining start as Jill draws attention to Zach’s eventful week, which also includes a tiff with his co-host, Brandon.

The trio dives into the Gospel of Mark, exploring the profound moment when Jesus calls His disciples. They leave everything behind to follow Him, but do they truly understand what they’re getting into? And do we grasp what it means to follow Jesus in our own lives?

This episode delves into the true meaning of "following," which has become a reductive term in 2025. To genuinely follow is to know deeply, to be close behind, and to chase after. Jesus is inviting us into a life not defined by works but by grace—a life where we come to know Him and His love so profoundly that it shapes every aspect of our lives. In a merit-based world where we’re constantly compared and judged by our accomplishments, it’s challenging to shed that mentality as we walk with Christ.

Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, Zach, Jill, and Brandon uncover the burdens of a works-based faith and the refreshing freedom found in embracing God’s grace. Responding to His call not only brings about transformation within ourselves but also integrates us into a loving community—a community that Jesus builds within us as we embrace our role as “fishers of men.”

Tune in for a compelling discussion on grace, discipleship, and the abundant life Jesus invites us all to experience!

In this episode:

Mark 1 verses 16-20

2 Timothy 2 verse 1

True revival is much more than a stirring moment—it's the spark that ignites lasting transformation, fueled by a genuine movement of the Holy Spirit. In this episode, we explore how authentic revival doesn't end with an overwhelming spiritual experience; rather, that's just where it begins.

Together with Brian Rice, we unpack how revival must lead us deeper—to real discipleship, honest self-reflection, and the courage to confront our own sinfulness. Our hearts are being shaped well before any remarkable experience takes place, and this formation continues long after the initial wave of emotion has passed. Often, it's in the quiet, overlooked moments where true transformation blossoms.

Join us for an insightful conversation that invites you beyond spiritual highs toward lasting change. You'll discover the power of the Holy Spirit not only to inspire but also to sustain genuine renewal and growth.

I can recite scripture and even exegetically preach scripture, but do I know God? In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Brian Rice to explore this deeply personal question that resonates with many of us. Brian shares his journey through a wilderness of doubt and questioning, reminding us that knowing God transcends mere theological knowledge.

We discuss the reality that anything meaningful in life—whether it’s a strong marriage, raising kids, or finding joy in our work—requires a long, slow, and often challenging journey of spiritual formation. While we’re great at sowing seeds of faith, we often struggle with the crucial incubation period necessary for real growth.

In a fast-paced culture that tries to shape us, how can we ensure we're being formed by the living God? Join us as we uncover practical insights for deepening our relationship with Jesus amid life’s chaos. This conversation is packed with vulnerability, hope, and a shared desire to know God more intimately. Don't miss it!

The wait is over—the King has come, and His Kingdom is right here, right now. This isn’t only some distant hope or future promise; it’s a living reality unfolding before our eyes. But are we paying attention?

In this episode, we dive into the life-changing truth that Jesus isn’t just waiting for something to happen—He’s actively transforming lives, breaking chains, and calling us into something far greater than we ever imagined. The Kingdom of God is here, and He’s inviting us to step into it.

We’ll explore how belief and repentance open the door to this Kingdom, why Jesus dwelling among us changes everything, and how so many miss out on true freedom by chasing distractions that lead nowhere. This conversation will challenge you to reexamine your life, break free from destructive habits, and align with the reality of God’s Kingdom.

The world is full of noise, but only one voice matters. Will you hear it?

In this episode:

Mark 1 verses 14-15

Isaiah 52 verse 7

Luke 17 verses 120-21

matt 12 verse 28

Luke 11 verse 20

matt 4 verse 17

Exodus 34 verse 6

Hebrews 10 verse 19

2 corinthians. 3 verses 17-18

Colossians 1 verse 13