YMP Classic Feed Archives - Yes Music Podcast

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

This week we are back with our ‘Why did Yes want…’ series and we have reached 1980 when both Anderson and Wakeman had left the band and up stepped Horn and Downes. How did this happen and why would Yes want to develop a relationship with a pop band? Listen on to discover our thoughts and then add your own to the show notes. Over the coming week we will be listening to The Buggles album, ‘The Age Of Plastic’ to try and find some clues to help us with the question above so please do join in with that and let us know what you think of the album, 42 years later.

A pop band?Are you serious?How could that work?

Take a listen to the episode and then let us know what you think below!

Courtesy of Doug Curran

Facebook has just changed how pages work which means that I’ve had to establish a new place for us to post and discuss Yes-related happenings. It’s a new group entitled, rather creatively, YMP Discussion Group. For the moment it’s open to anyone to join but I’ll be adding rules and joining requirements when I have time. One of the advantages of the new format is that all members of the group have the same ability to post content, so it’s a bit more egalitarian, or somesuch. Please do search for the group and join in.

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Not final artwork or title - just me messing about with one of Jeremy North's photos

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

This week, Mark and I consider the question of what would happen if Yes were restricted to only playing music from Open Your Eyes to The Quest in a concert. Imagine that. Well, we did. Listen out for our ideas and add your own to the show notes for this week.

What would you choose?Can a sensible setlist be constructed?How would it fit together?

Take a listen to the episode and then let us know what you think below!

Here are all the albums we had to work with!

Facebook has just changed how pages work which means that I’ve had to establish a new place for us to post and discuss Yes-related happenings. It’s a new group entitled, rather creatively, YMP Discussion Group. For the moment it’s open to anyone to join but I’ll be adding rules and joining requirements when I have time. One of the advantages of the new format is that all members of the group have the same ability to post content, so it’s a bit more egalitarian, or somesuch. Please do search for the group and join in.

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If you haven’t already done so, please sign up at tormatobook.com to the email newsletter. I’ve already shared 3 updates on the progress of the forthcoming book, TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE? (not the final title) complete with short extracts from some of the chapters. If you sign up now, for free, you can have access to the newsletters you’ve missed. It really helps to know people are looking forward to reading the culmination of my decades of Tormato obsession.

Not final artwork or title - just me messing about with one of Jeremy North's photos

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

This week, Mark and I give our impressions of the self-titled album by Refugee, featuring Patrick Moraz, in our attempt to see why Yes wanted him in the band in 1974. As you will hear, we both rather like it. Please do add your own comments to the show notes for this week’s episode and let us know if you agree or disagree.

Is it obvious why Yes wanted Patrick Moraz from this album?What special abilities does he show here?Would he fit in?

Patrick Moraz!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMcLoouGu-o&list=PLGfb2R92OHul6B1GBr1niUp0JyGGEqLzT&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-klxh3TwU0I

Facebook has just changed how pages work which means that I’ve had to establish a new place for us to post and discuss Yes-related happenings. It’s a new group entitled, rather creatively, YMP Discussion Group. For the moment it’s open to anyone to join but I’ll be adding rules and joining requirements when I have time. One of the advantages of the new format is that all members of the group have the same ability to post content, so it’s a bit more egalitarian, or somesuch. Please do search for the group and join in.

If you haven’t already done so, please sign up at tormatobook.com to the email newsletter. I’ve already shared 3 updates on the progress of the forthcoming book, TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE? complete with short extracts from some of the chapters. If you sign up now, for free, you can have access to the newsletters you’ve missed. It really helps to know people are looking forward to reading the culmination of my decades of Tormato obsession.

Not final artwork - just me messing about with one of Jeremy North's photos

What characteristics did Patrick have that Yes wanted?What was Moraz up to before joining Yes?Why didn’t they go for Vangelis?

Take a listen to the episode and then let us know what you think below!

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Aaron SteelmanDave OwenMark James LangPaul TomeiJoost MaglevDavid HeydenMartin KjellbergPaul WilsonBob MartilottaLindMichael O'ConnorWilliam HayesBrian SullivanDavid PannellMiguel FalcãoLobate ScarpChris BandiniDavid WatkinsonNeal KaforeyRachel HadawayCraig EstenesDemPaul HailesMark 'Zarkol' BaggsDoug CurranRobert NasirFergus CubbageScott ColomboFred BarringerGary BettsGeoff BailieSimon BarrowGeoffrey MasonStephen LambeGuy R DeRomeSteve DillHenrik AntonssonSteve PerryHogne Bø PettersenSteve RodeDeclan LogueSteve ScottJamie McQuinnSteven RoehrAlan BeggTerence SadlerMichael HanderhanTim StannardJimTodd DudleyJohn CowanTony HandleyJohn HoldenJoseph CottrellJohn ParryKeith HoisingtonJohn ThomsonBarry Gorsky

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

This week Mark and I consider why Yes wanted Swiss keyboardist Patrick Moraz to join them after the departure of Rick Wakeman. We discuss the bands which Moraz played in and the route he took to arrive with Yes which, as you might imagine, wasn’t straightforward! It eventually led to his band, Refugee so we will be spending next week listening to their self-titled album in order to give you our thoughts on that record. Sounds like it’s going to be fun.

Patrick Moraz!

If you haven’t already done so, please sign up at tormatobook.com to the email newsletter. I’ve already shared 3 updates on the progress of the forthcoming book, TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE? complete with short extracts from some of the chapters. If you sign up now, for free, you can have access to the newsletters you’ve missed. It really helps to know people are looking forward to reading the culmination of my decades of Tormato obsession.

Not final artwork - just me messing about with one of Jeremy North's photos

What characteristics did Patrick have that Yes wanted?What was Moraz up to before joining Yes?Why didn’t they go for Vangelis?

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Aaron SteelmanDave OwenMark James LangPaul TomeiJoost MaglevDavid HeydenMartin KjellbergPaul WilsonBob MartilottaLindMichael O'ConnorWilliam HayesBrian SullivanDavid PannellMiguel FalcãoLobate ScarpChris BandiniDavid WatkinsonNeal KaforeyRachel HadawayCraig EstenesDemPaul HailesMark 'Zarkol' BaggsDoug CurranRobert NasirFergus CubbageScott ColomboFred BarringerGary BettsGeoff BailieSimon BarrowGeoffrey MasonStephen LambeGuy R DeRomeSteve DillHenrik AntonssonSteve PerryHogne Bø PettersenSteve RodeDeclan LogueSteve ScottJamie McQuinnSteven RoehrAlan BeggTerence SadlerMichael HanderhanTim StannardJimTodd DudleyJohn CowanTony HandleyJohn HoldenJoseph CottrellJohn ParryKeith HoisingtonJohn ThomsonBarry Gorsky

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

Mark and I had a great time speaking to photographer Rob Brimson this week. He was with Po from Hipgnosis when the photos of YES band members on the inner gatefold sleeve of Going For The One were taken and he took the shot of Yes Tor which adorns the cover of Tormato. He also did a bit of informal modelling work… Rob was open and generous about the days when he was based at Hipgnosis’ studios in London as well as his trip to Mountain Studios in Montreux and the story about the helicopter and the escape of the flying pig. Listen out for that one later. More Yes revelations are included in our conversation.

Rob's website:

https://www.robbrimson.com/

Also this week around the social media hotspots, I have been posting some adverts for my new website which is supporting the Tormato book I announced last week on the YMP. To keep it nice and simple, I’ve called it https://tormatobook.com and if you’d like to sign up to receive regular updates on the progress towards the publications of the book, then add your details to receive the email newsletter.

Not final artwork - just me messing about with one of Jeremy North's photos

Is that really you on the cover?What was it like working for Hipgnosis?What happened to the escaped pig?

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

This week Mark and I have enjoyed listening to Alan White in a rather different context to normal - adding his remarkable talents to John Lennon’s classic album, Imagine. We present our thoughts and then get together to have a chat about the music and the musicians involved. Please do add your own thoughts below and see if you agree with Mark and me.

This is the image from our conversation with Alan

We also found time to consider a two pence topic around Jon Anderson’s plans for live concerts next year with The Band Geeks. Stay tuned for our thoughts on that.

In other news, I’m excited to announce that I am part-way through writing a book about Tormato which will include all the aspects we’ve covered on the YMP as well as copious illustrations and a myriad of other things. It will be in paper and online format and I’ll be announcing all kinds of other news about it as we approach the publication date - which is still a long way off. However, you can already go to tormatobook.com to find out more and to sign up to an email newsletter to keep up-to-date with progress. The book will be published by Five Per Cent For Something Publishing (see what I did there?) and is to be called, ‘Too Close To The Edge? The surprising and instructive story of TORMATO, the final YES album of the 1970s’. Good title eh?

Not final artwork - just me messing about with one of Jeremy North's photos

What does Alan's drumming on Imagine sound like?Does he play appropriately?Can you tell it's him?

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

While we wait for Yes to begin their tour in Japan in September and following the end of Jon Anderson’s Close To The Edge tour, it’s comparatively quiet in Yes world at the moment. That certainly doesn’t mean we don’t have anything to talk about, of course. So this week Mark and I have been thinking about why Yes wanted the late and already desperately missed Alan White.

We have discovered or perhaps rediscovered some aspects of Alan’s early career which made him the perfect fit for Yes following the departure of Bill Bruford, very shortly before the beginning of the original Close To The Edge tour. It was an excellent discussion reminding us just how multi-faceted Alan’s abilities were so do keep listening for that.

What about Alan White attracted Yes?What did Alan spend his teenage years doing?What recordings can we hear pre-Yes Alan playing on?

Take a listen to the episode and then let us know what you think below!

Peter D'Amore, featuring Billy Sherwood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG920bzWKTI

John Michels mentioned this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7CFDd0q5XE

...and here are his photos:

Griffin featuring Alan White:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mrPC2xTVUU

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

I’m on holiday - again - with the family so I’ve added a repeat of one of our favourite ’deep dives’ into the feed. I hope you enjoy it even if you’ve heard it before.

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

I recently spoke to illustrator Colin Elgie, who was a freelance illustrator for legendary album art producers, Hipgnosis, for the whole of the 1970s. We chatted about his artwork for Tormato and I found out that he also produced some other Yes items you'll recognise, along with other prog album covers. It was a great phone call and this week I explain to Mark what Colin said and we take a look at some of the artwork Colin and I discussed.

Then Mark tells us about some other vinyl albums which have interesting and/or unique inner contents. You'll also have your favourites so please do add them in the comments below.

What did Colin Elgie produce for Yes?What did he think of the Hipgnosis cover for Tormato?What other inner album contents are worth tracking down?

Take a listen to the episode and then let us know what you think below!

Two Genesis albums with Colin Elgie covers:

https://youtu.be/PrqRAmPsWYg

https://youtu.be/GMSjD716bGU

Al Stewart - Year of the Cat with Colin Elgie cover:

https://youtu.be/Ak_MTXQALa0

Colin Elgie's YES poster and newspaper advert, uploaded to Forgotten-Yesterdays.com by Geoffrey Mason:

Colin Elgie's artwork for the inner bag of Tormato, in various places and formats:

Original 1978 Tormato inner bag - front

Original 1978 Tormato inner bag - back

Back inside cover of the Tormato music book

Expanded and remastered CD tray

Expanded and remastered CD printing

The 'pre-release' version on the inside front cover of the 1978 Tourmato programme - note the different lettering, lines and map!

Mark's copy of Rick Wakeman's King Arthur:

KISS!

Relayer cardboard inner, as mentioned by Kevin:

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org

Produced by Ken Fuller, Wayne Hall and Jeffrey Crecelius

After a period of ill health I’m finally back this week with the second part of our Why did Yes want Rick Wakeman feature. Many thanks to everyone who has sent wishes for a speedy recovery.

We also have the final word from Simon Barrow on the CTTE 50th Anniversary UK and Irish tour and we start with some news from around the interwebs.

What were the two previous albums from Strawbs like?Why was Rick fed up with that band?What were press and fan reactions like to CTTE50?

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The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert - I put it together from: archive.org