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Resilience is often described as the ability to recover from challenges—but resilience may involve more than simply returning to the way things were.

In this episode, Dr. Nicole Alioto sits down with Eva Palladino to revisit resilience and examine how people and organizations evaluate disruptions, validate their experiences, and take action to move forward.

Listen to this episode to hear:

• How resilience is different from grit,

• What are the 3 signs to look for that someone is having challenges with being resilient, and

• How you can learn to evaluate, validate, and activate your resilience using the E.V.A. method.

About Eva Palladino: Eva Palladino is the founder of Be Unprecedented, where she helps female entrepreneurs 50+ strengthen their resilience, rebuild self-trust, and keep moving their businesses forward. A former Fortune 100 change executive with more than 30 years of experience, Eva created the E.V.A. Method—Evaluate, Validate, Activate—to bring proven transformation strategies out of the boardroom and into the lives of women building their next big thing. She believes experience does not expire at 50—and neither does ambition.

Link to schedule a 30 min discovery chat: https://call.be-unprecedented.com/call-scheduling

Connect with Eva on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-palladino-businessresiliencecoaching/

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You can register for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here: https://8823249.hs-sites.com/canyoumeasurethat

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What does it mean to have equity in leadership practices? What impact does it have on our schools and our students? In this episode, Dr. L. Oliver Robinson talks about his experiences from over 30 years serving in public education. He helps clarify what equity means and looks like as well as how school leaders can ensure "all students are well."

In this episode, you'll hear about:

• the importance of shared definitions and a commitment to equitable opportunities and outcomes for every student,
• how to examine equity in leadership in four areas: policy, people, practices, and performance, and
• why data should illuminate organizational values and determine whether stated commitments produce parity in performance.

About Dr. L. Oliver Robinson

Dr. L. Oliver Robinson, recently retired after 30 years of leadership in K-12 school districts in New York. He served 25 years as a Superintendent of Schools, making him one of the longest serving superintendents in the state of New York. For the last 20 years, since July of 2005, he served as the Superintendent of Schools for the Shenendehowa Central School District. Prior to Shenendehowa, Dr. Robinson was the Superintendent of the Mohonasen Central School District from 2001-2005.

Dr. Robinson is the author of Naked in the Public Eye - Leading and Learning in an Era of Accountability. He has spoken extensively and completed workshops on various leadership issues and topics, including, but not limited to, fiscal responsibility, organizational culture, leadership and governance, and effective management. He coaches and mentors superintendents nationwide via his consulting firm, 2EDUK8 LLC. Over the years he has served as an adjunct professor at various colleges and universities, most recently as a member of the faculty for the Sage Graduate School Educational Leadership Doctoral Program. Dr. Robinson received his Bachelor of Arts from Brown University, and Master’s and Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) degrees from the University at Albany. 

Connect with Dr. Robinson on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/droliverrobinson/

Website: https://2eduk8llc.com/

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Do you have a strategic plan that feels stale, stuck, or stalled and it seems like your team is moving in different directions? If so, join Dr. Alioto LIVE for the next Can You Measure That? to talk about strategies to refocus your team and get back on track so you can see real results. It's free, it's fast, and it's fun!

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Introducing a new program, process, or practice does not guarantee that people will actually use it.

In this episode, Dr. Nicole Alioto and Dr. Sondra Stegenga talk about how to define adoption and the importance it plays in determining whether or not your program has an impact. If you are implementing a program or service in your organization or school and you want to know if it made a difference or not, don't skip this episode!

Listen to this episode to hear:

• How to define adoption beyond initial sign on,

• What is the impact of lack of clarity in defining evalution outcomes, and

• How you can identify barriers to implementation and improve your program's chance of long-term success.

About Dr. Sondra Stegenga Dr. Stegenga is the Director of Research and Innovation at the Oregon Infant Mental Health Association. She has over 30 years of experience in the fields of health and education serving individuals across the lifespan. She has provided services and supports to children and families as a home visitor, occupational therapist, early intervention program administrator, and state council member across a range of environments including early intervention, schools, and hospitals. She also has worked as a tenured faculty member helping to drive best practices in pre-service and scale-up the workforce in early intervention and early childhood special education. She holds a Bachelor of Science in behavioral science, Master of Science in occupational therapy, a Master of Education in educational leadership – special education administration, and a Ph.D. in Special Education – Early Intervention. She also holds certifications as a Special Education Director and Elementary Principal. 

She has regularly serviced on local, collegiate, state, and national councils, workgroups, and advisory boards to improve practices for young children with disabilities throughout the United States; including being a Governor appointed member of state Early Intervention State Interagency Coordinating Councils over the years. Dr. Stegenga’s research areas center on the development, implementation, and scale-up of evidence-based practices and policy in birth to three early intervention (EI) and educational systems. Dr. Stegenga has served as the PI or CO-PI of several federal and state grants focused on systems change and implementation science to improve practices in the field of early childhood, mental health, and education. She also has spoken nationally and internationally, including headlining and invited presentations, on using the science of implementation to improve quality, implementation, and scale-up of evidence-based practices in early childhood and educational systems across the lifespan. 

Connect with Dr. Stegenga on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/sondra-stegenga/

Useful Links:

• Society for Implementation Research Collaboration: https://societyforimplementationresearchcollaboration.org/
• Stages of Implementation Completion: https://www.oslc.org/sic/
• Feasibility, Acceptability, Appropriateness (FIM AIM IAM) Measures: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5576104/
• National Implementation Research Network (NIRN): https://nirn.fpg.unc.edu/
• NIRN & their State Implementation and Scaling-UP of Evidence-based Practices (SISEP) Initiative: https://implementation.fpg.unc.edu/implementation-practice/

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Did the topic from today’s show resonate with you? Chances are, your strategic plan aims to impact hard-to-measure outcomes like belonging, trust, or engagement too. But what exactly do they mean in your district—and how will you know whether or not they actually improve?

Join Dr. Nicole Alioto live for a free deep dive as she takes one common strategic priority from vague idea to measurable outcome. You can find the link for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here.

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Potential describes what someone may be capable of achieving—but how can you measure something that has not happened yet?

In this episode, Dr. Nicole Alioto speaks with Scott Fossler about defining potential, recognizing indicators of future growth, and avoiding assumptions that may limit how we evaluate our abilities.

Scott Fossler, founder of Carbon-Based Leadership, discusses his framework for unlocking human potential, inspired by the structure of carbon, emphasizes the importance of both outcome-focused and process-focused metrics, and highlights the significance of connection.

Listen to this episode to hear:

• How organic chemistry connects to what makes people come alive to achieve their best,
• The patterns that indicate when people are not living up to their potential, and
• How you can do a quick Carbon Check-In today!

About Scott Fossler Scott Fossler is the founder of Carbon Based Leadership with over 35 years of experience helping senior leaders and organizations unlock and align human potential. His work as a talent strategist and coach is grounded in deep expertise in talent management, leadership development, and organizational change, shaped by decades of designing and leading enterprise-level initiatives across industries. Scott is the creator of the Carbon Based Learning model, a science-inspired framework that clarifies how people grow, learn, and perform at their best. He is known for translating insight into clarity, resilience, and sustained performance.

To learn more about Carbon Based Leaderhip, visit carbonbasedleadership.com

Connect with Scott Fossler on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-fossler/

or onFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/scott.fossler

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Join Dr. Nicole Alioto LIVE!

Did the topic from today’s show resonate with you? Chances are, your strategic plan aims to impact hard-to-measure outcomes like belonging, trust, or engagement too. But what exactly do they mean in your district—and how will you know whether or not they actually improve?

Join Dr. Nicole Alioto live for a free deep dive as she takes one common strategic priority from vague idea to measurable outcome. You can find the link for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here.

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Empathy is often described as the ability to understand another person’s perspective or experience—but what does empathy look like in practice and can it be measured?

In this episode, Dr. Nicole Alioto speaks with Icle Freeland and Kristin Vaassen from Two by Two Character Development about defining empathy and supporting our youngest learners in developing it so that they can build strong relationships and positive futures!

Listen to this episode to hear:

• How to distinguish kindness from empathy in clear and observable terms,

• Where empathy connects to other outcomes, and

• How schools and families can support children in developing empathy.

About Kristin Vaassen Kristin Vaassen founded Two by Two Character Development in 2005 after more than 30 years as an educator, combining her passion for teaching with her commitment to helping people, animals, and the environment. Today, alongside a dedicated team, she leads the organization's mission of inspiring kindness and strong character in thousands of children and families across the country.

About Icle Freeland Icle Freeland is the Director of Outreach & Partnerships at Two by Two Character Development, where he helps schools create hands-on opportunities for students to build empathy, kindness, responsibility, and positive relationships. A former elementary teacher, Icle has worked in character education across K-12 and higher education and is passionate about equipping educators with practical strategies that help students thrive.  

To learn more about Two by Two Character Development, visit their website at https://twobytwoeducation.org/.

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Join Dr. Nicole Alioto LIVE!

Did the topic from today’s show resonate with you? Chances are, your strategic plan aims to impact hard-to-measure outcomes like belonging, trust, or engagement too. But what exactly do they mean in your district—and how will you know whether or not they actually improve?

Join Dr. Nicole Alioto live for a free deep dive as she takes one common strategic priority from vague idea to measurable outcome. You can find the link for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here.

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Trust me. Two words that are sure to destroy school culture.

How can you build a culture of trust when there have been so many challenges? Did you inherit a culture of mistrust? Are there emerging concerns that you want to work through to avoid an impact on morale? Join Dr. Nicole Alioto as she sits down with Dr. Jen Schwanke, author, speaker, and educator to talk about this important topic. How do you identify the trust killers so you can make a measurable impact on them?

Listen to this episode to hear:

• what it means to be trustworthy vs. trust willing,
• how to identify trust killers in your schools, and
• how to self-assess trust pillars in your leadership practices.

If your district or team is looking to grow a culture of trust, this conversation is for you!

About Dr. Jen Schwanke Dr. Jen Schwanke is a longtime educator, teaching and leading at all levels. She is the author of several ASCD books, including Trusted: Trust Pillars, Trust Killers and the Secret to Successful Schools.  A frequent contributor to multiple educational publishers, Dr. Schwanke consults with districts and school leaders in the areas of school climate, personnel, and instructional leadership. She is a frequent presenter at national organizations including ASCD + ISTE, NASSP, and NAESP. An instructor in educational administration at The Ohio State University, Dr. Schwanke currently serves as a Superintendent in Ohio. She also co-hosts the podcast, Principal Matters.

Visit https://jenschwanke.com/ to subscribe to her "Principal Problems" newsletter and learn more about her exciting work!

Connect with Dr. Jen on LinkedIn here.

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Did the topic from today’s show resonate with you? Chances are, your strategic plan aims to impact hard-to-measure outcomes like belonging, trust, or engagement too. But what exactly do they mean in your district—and how will you know whether or not they actually improve?

Join Dr. Nicole Alioto live for a free deep dive as she takes one common strategic priority from vague idea to measurable outcome. You can find the link for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here.

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In schools and workplaces across the US, there is a growing recognition of the need for "soft skills." While the name for these critical skills often changes, what they represent does not - key elements for a successful career. Join Dr. Alioto and her guest, Yadi Caro, and they discuss the framework from Yadi Caro's new book, "Hardcore Soft Skills: A Guide to Work with Humans."

Listen to this episode to hear:

• the 5Cs of hardcore soft skills,
• how teams and schools can measure and improve them, and
• why context is important.

If your district or team is looking to improve people/power/human/hardcore soft skills, this conversation is for you!

For more about the NY Inspires Portrait of a Graduate, visit https://www.nysed.gov/grad-measures/new-york-state-portrait-graduate.

About Yadi Caro Yadi Caro is the founder of Hardcore Soft Skills, a company focused on educating teams and individuals on critical skills to prepare for the future of work. She is a Harvard-educated Organizational Psychology practitioner who has been working with teams of developers and engineers for over 15 years within US military organizations, launching high performing teams and helping organizations to break silos, improve collaboration and innovate. She is the author of Hardcore Soft Skills: A Guide to Work with Humans, host of the Hardcore Soft Skills podcast (listeners in 60+ countries), keynote speaker and team coach. Yadi holds a Master’s in Communications (Florida International University), and a Bachelors in Philosophy (University of Puerto Rico). Her certifications include Organizational Behavior (Harvard), Project Management Professional (PMP), Certified Agile Coach, Lean Six Sigma, and Business Analytics (MIT). She is also a trained ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) Coach. 

Visit the Hardcore Soft Skills website at https://www.hardcoresoftskills.com/.

Connect with Yadi Caro on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/yadiraycaro/.

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Join Dr. Nicole Alioto LIVE!

Did the topic from today’s show resonate with you? Chances are, your strategic plan aims to impact hard-to-measure outcomes like belonging, trust, or engagement too. But what exactly do they mean in your district—and how will you know whether or not they actually improve?

Join Dr. Nicole Alioto live for a free deep dive as she takes one common strategic priority from vague idea to measurable outcome. You can find the link for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here.

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In this Season 4 premiere, Dr. Nicole Alioto and Dr. Amy Berry discuss how to turn engagement from an abstract concept into something you can observe and measure.

Listen to this episode to hear:

• How to clearly define what engagement looks like,
• What the engagement continuum is, and 
• How students are the drivers of engagement.

This episode is longer than our typical interviews, but settle in because this episode is packed with GEMS! If your district is looking to improve student engagement, then you don't want to miss this conversation.

About Amy Berry, Ph.D. With over 20 years of experience working in education as a teacher, researcher, and professional learning facilitator, Dr. Berry is passionate about helping learners of all ages find their joy in learning. Her areas of interest include learner engagement and agency, formative evaluation, and learning through play. She has worked with teachers, school leaders, and education officials from the U.S, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Ukraine.

Website:    www.amyberry.com.au

LinkedIn:  www.linkedin.com/in/dramyberry

The Hub:  www.theengagementhub.com

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Join Dr. Nicole Alioto LIVE!

Did the topic from today’s show resonate with you? Chances are, your strategic plan aims to impact hard-to-measure outcomes like belonging, trust, or engagement too. But what exactly do they mean in your district—and how will you know whether or not they actually improve?

Join Dr. Nicole Alioto live for a free deep dive as she takes one common strategic priority from vague idea to measurable outcome. You can find the link for the next Can You Measure That? Live! here.

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As we count down to Season 4 coming on August 14, 2026, join us for this special episode where we countdown the top 3 most listened to episodes of Season 3 with brief excerpts from these amazing shows. Is your favorite episode here?

Listen to the full episode of the third most listened to episode here.

Listen to the full episode of the second most listened to episode here.

Listen to the full episode of the most listened to episode here.

SEASON 4 DROPS AUGUST 14 with an interview with Dr. Amy Berry talking about measuring student engagement. You wont' want to miss it!

If you can define it, you can measure it. If you can measure it, you can achieve it!

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As we count down to Season 4 coming on August 14, 2026, join us for this special episode where we countdown the top 3 most listened to episodes of Season 2 with brief excerpts from these amazing shows. Is your favorite episode here?

Listen to the full episode of the third most listened to episode here.

Listen to the full episode of the second most listened to episode here.

Listen to the full episode of the most listened to episode here.

If you can define it, you can measure it. If you can measure it, you can achieve it!

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