Some credit union leaders still treat the NCUA like an adversary—or an oracle. But the truth is, regulators are paying attention, especially when the feedback is thoughtful, specific, and backed by real solutions.

In this episode of Grow Your Credit Union, host Joshua Barclay and co-host Becky Reed are joined by guest Elizabeth Eurgubian, former Director of External Affairs and Policy Advisor to the chair of the NCUA, to talk about what the agency's recent leadership shakeups really mean, how to be heard in the rule-making process, and why this is the right moment to reshape the relationship between credit unions and regulators.

Listen now to stay ahead of what's shaping the movement.