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Science said one thing. God said another.

The doctors handed them a 15-month plan. Forty-six weeks of chemo, six weeks of radiation, and a long list of complications to brace for. A year later, Ciarra can tell you Jackson walked through almost none of it. His own care team calls him the poster child for the treatment plan.

Part 2 is where she traces the provision, and honestly, the details are the best part. There was a house they were about to buy on emotion instead of God's timing, and the prayer Logan prayed over it: Lord, if this isn't Your will, don't just close the door, slam it shut. It appraised 75,000 dollars under asking. Their realtor had never seen anything like it.

What God actually had was better. A family friend handed them a fully furnished lake home with a sandy yard, which happened to be the one thing Jackson needed, because he couldn't play in dirt with his port. Nobody thought to ask for that. God thought of it anyway.

Then groceries on the doorstep. Dinners. A Christmas the family was far too tired to make happen. A dinosaur on top of a tree that nobody knew was significant until Jackson looked up. A once-in-a-lifetime job for Logan twenty minutes from home.

Ciarra's honest about the parts nobody puts on a prayer card, too. Fear that runs straight to the worst outcome. Protecting a marriage while you're in survival mode. And how the peace that passes understanding is just a phrase until you're living inside it.

Her word to the mom who just got the news is simple. Get off Google. God is bigger than any diagnosis.

"A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps." Proverbs 16:9

In this episode:

(04:26) Science said he'd need a transfusion. We didn't walk through an ounce of it

(09:26) Lord, if this isn't Your will, don't just close the door. Slam it shut

(21:33) Mommy, look at the top of the tree

(39:31) Get off Google. God is bigger than any diagnosis

Haven't heard Part 1 yet? Start there, then come back. And next Monday we start a brand new two-part story with Gina's oldest brother Troy.

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God was already there before anybody knew anything was wrong.

Ciarra Wilson is 25, married to Logan, and mom to a three and a half year old named Jackson. In Part 1 she walks Gina back through everything that led up to his diagnosis, and the whole thing reads like God going first.

She was home that day instead of at school. Jackson was in a diaper instead of the potty. And she'd just finished the pediatrics semester of nursing school, so the second she saw it, she knew it wasn't normal. None of that was luck.

There's more of it, too. A traumatic birth where Jackson came out blue and wasn't breathing. An asthma diagnosis at 15 months that made Wolfson's familiar ground long before they ever needed it to be. A hospital stay on his second birthday, the first time this family ever asked publicly for prayer, and he was completely well inside of 30 minutes.

Gina shares her own story too, the night a mother's intuition saved her newborn son. Both of these women got sent home once and went back anyway. Both times it mattered. If something in you is saying go back, go back.

The episode ends on 7-7, the day they were told it was cancer.

"The LORD, he it is that doth go before thee." Deuteronomy 31:8

In this episode:

(08:14) Within 30 minutes of asking for prayer, he was completely fine

(15:45) I'd just finished my pediatrics semester. I knew that wasn't normal

(37:40) Pain is the fifth vital sign. With kids, mom's intuition is the sixth

(45:40) The day we found out was 7-7. Seven is completion

Part 2 is where they watch Him move. It's out next Monday, so don't stop at the end of this one.

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So what will you do WITH Him?

Part 1 asked whether the year behind you was you or Him. Part 2 is where Gina and KK answer it, and the answer has less to do with doing more and more to do with being close.

They talk about the version of faith where we shrink God down and put Him in a little box at our level, a friend we call when something breaks. That's not the relationship He offered.

They get honest about the empty cup problem too. You can't pour out what you were never filled with, and a lot of us have been serving on fumes and calling it faithfulness.

And there's the challenge that stings a little: we've all been waiting on a word from God while the Bible sits closed on the nightstand. He already gave you sixty-six books.

Then the closing thought. We love to quote "be still," and we almost never actually do it. Stillness is where He finally gets a word in.

"Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

In this episode:
(05:08) We put God in a little box at our level
(11:13) He gave you 66 books. You already have a word from God
(16:49) You can't pour from an empty cup
(22:44) We love to quote "be still," but we never do it

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Was it you, or was it Him?

That's the question Gina and KK sit with in Part 1 of this two-part conversation. By February, most resolutions are already collecting dust. So instead of another list of goals, they look back honestly at the year behind them and ask who was actually running it.

This one gets vulnerable. Gina opens up about the season when ministry stopped feeling like a calling and started feeling like a weight, heavy enough that she had to step back and resign. If you've been busy, tired, and wondering why doing good things left you empty, you'll hear yourself in this.

They also talk about the habit so many of us have: laying something at the altar and then picking it right back up on the walk to our pew. Leaving the past where it belongs is harder than we admit.

And then the reframe that changes everything. The question was never what you'll do FOR Him. It's what you'll do WITH Him.

"Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. Behold, I will do a new thing." Isaiah 43:18-19

In this episode:
(00:00) By February, the resolution's gone
(10:53) When ministry became a burden and Gina had to resign
(19:56) We lay it at the altar, then pick it right back up
(23:33) Not what you'll do FOR Him, but WITH Him

Part 2 picks up right here, so don't stop at the end of this one.

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We ran out of time on the last episode, so Gina and Nana Beth picked the conversation right back up. This one goes deeper.

The disciples walked with Jesus every single day and still asked Him, "Lord, teach us to pray." Not how to pray. Just teach us to pray. If they needed it that badly, how much more do we?

In this episode Gina and Nana Beth talk about rejoicing before you ask, bringing a praise instead of a prayer request, and going back to give God the glory once He answers. They get honest about why we'd rather sit in the mess and talk to everybody but Him. And they close with Esther, fasting, and what happens when you tell God you're serious.

If you've ever thought your words weren't good enough or your life wasn't together enough to pray, this one is for you. Nobody has it all together. That's exactly why we need Him.

Scripture in this episode: Luke 11, 1 Thessalonians 5, James 5

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Prayer, Part 1: Being Fervent in Prayer

What does it really mean to pray? Not the recited lines we learned as kids, but a real conversation with God. In this episode, Gina welcomes her beloved Nana Beth to open up about a hard family season and the moment she stopped trying to fix everything herself and finally handed it over to the One who could.

Together they get honest about the prayer struggles most of us never say out loud. Are we praying too broadly to see God actually move? Are we asking Him for direction, then second-guessing it the moment He gives it? And what would change if we learned to not just live for Jesus, but to live with Him?

If you've ever lost sleep over something you couldn't control, this conversation is for you. Come pull up a chair.

Part 2 continues the conversation next week.

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What if everything you thought you knew about love was only scratching the surface? In this Valentine's Day episode, Gina and KK open up about the greatest love of all: the love of Jesus. They dig into the difference between loving someone and being in love with them, why patience and forgiveness are the truest marks of God's love, and how learning to love the "unlovable" starts with remembering we were once unlovable too. A tender, honest conversation about marriage, family, church hurt, and the challenge to love others the way Christ loves us. You might just be the only Jesus somebody sees.

Mary had a family that encouraged her, supported her, cheered for her, and loved her through every part of God's calling on her life. God uses family and the unity that comes with it. Take a listen as we talk about this very thing.

Marys bravery wasn't the absence of fear, it was choosing faith anyway. Take a deep dive with us as we study Mary and all the goodness it has to offer.

Because waiting isn't wasted, sometimes it's where God does his BEST work!