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By Hosted by Kyle Shannon & Ritesh Patel
The podcast currently has 15 episodes available.
Murray and Nova (along with Jack Hidary) were Co-Founders of EarthWeb, one of the first Internet companies in the world.
Episode Timeline
3:20 Good news is, I'm employed. Bad news... I'm STILL employed.
4:35 It starts with Jack and Murray.
6:15 Let's put relief agencies on the Internet
8:10 Hatched this idea called ReliefNet
10:40 Murray was a very active playboy
13:20 We started getting calls from ad agencies
16:00 We had one desk for six people!
18:25 "How did you even get a meeting with me?!" CTO, of The Met
20:45 Earthweb became the preeminent Web development shop
23:15 Article in Wired: 'High-Brow HTML House'
24:50 The "Jerry Yang" episode
28:40 Talk about the Innovations...
34:30 I remember sitting with Eric Schmidt...
38:00 Went from $3mm in revenue to $60mm in a year and a half
41:55 You gotta remember, I'm a music major.
44:55 Before Tesla became a household name...
46:30 Everything I know about business, I learned from Jack and Murray
49:30 We crash-landed Wikipedia on the moon...
51:20 More importantly for me is the human side of it...
Kate founded {meta} Marketer in 1999, developed Toshiba America‘s first intranet, is the author of 4 books including her latest, “Tech Humanist” (which was featured at CES 2019), and was recently named to the 2020 Thinkers50 Radar, a global ranking of management thinkers.
Episode Timeline
6:00 And so it begins...
8:45 I got indoctrinated into MUDs
11:00 I remember getting tingles on the back of my neck!
14:05 What made you want to be a part of the Internet?
16:00 Toshiba recruited me to come to San Francisco
19:15 The next interesting pivot was Netflix... this '98
22:15 I was still drive by curiosity about everything!
25:00 "Relevance" was what we were going for
27:15 Relevance is a form of respect
29:00 Discretion is too... Balance how much we know about you
33:00 What got your juices going in those early days?
36:00 You could be a generalist
40:30 Impact of technology on people... The Future of Work
41:45 What have you retained from those early days?
45:25 I just became allergic to mangos!
46:30 You're going to love this...
49:30 I was at Magazines.com leading up customer experience...
52:20 So where are we now?
Andrew has been an advocate for digital literacy and equity from the very early days, focused on education, democracy & civic engagement.
Episode Timeline
3:10 We all look the same... except for the glasses
6:20 How did it all begin?
8:10 Veteran's group had this old theater on Irving Place (...called "Irving Plaza")
11:05 By 1995 we were experimenting with streaming live music
12:55 I realized I needed to be involved with the community
16:10 I walked into this school and saw 3,000 kids and a single computer
17:20 Tech Glitch HOLD PLEASE
18:10 About 200 people showed up on a Saturday... That led to M.O.U.S.E.
23:00 The Record Industry blew it... they could have built iTunes or Spotify
26:25 The technology changes the art
28:10 ...and then the Bubble burst
29:50 I found it more an anthropological moment than a technological one
34:00 I started a conference call the Personal Democracy Forum
37:30 Politicians don't know the difference between a Server and a Waiter
43:00 Non-profits were starting to use these tools
45:15 Lightbulb: The NY Tech community is still highly empathetic
46:00 Micah Sifry and I Co-Founded Civic Hall together
52:05 The tech community is still way too white, way too privileged
59:20 Any chance we'll see you running for Mayor?
Thor, Jack & Priya led the Boston office of AGENCY.COM and have gone on to do some very interesting things in the digital space.
Episode Timeline
4:20 Thor's origin story
9:15 How it began for Priya
12:25 Jack rolls back the time machine
13:05 Example of 1996 design and the THREE Pharma websites that existed!
15:40 "I remember the insanity of it... People were INSANE!"
17:20 "These powerhouses are taking advice from a 20-something!"
18:50 "He punches me in the arm and says 'Goddammit Man, give me a number!'"
19:55 "The world was just changing underneath them!"
22:00 Showing 500 executives what the Internet was.
26:00 "The New York office had it's own culture..."
27:50 "If you want to be with the Senior Team, you show up for pancakes!"
31:05 "I can think of 3 things we did that were absolutely firsts!"
37:15 "We became the soul in the machine..."
40:00 "Think about the skillsets we had..."
41:35 Priya, what are you doing now?
42:50 Jack, how about you?
45:05 Thor, you're up!
49:40 Wrap-up chat
It wasn't just websites that were being built back in the day. Meet some of the couples that met back then still together today. Smooch!
Episode Timeline
2:10 Eamonn & Oriana: The Beginning
6:55 The very first trade show & uncomfortable hug
8:30 How did it evolve into a romance? (Slowly & painfully...)
10:25 I had this "partition" around me.
13:00 NYC - 5 Days. 2 Hotel rooms. 1 bed.
15:55 James & Bethany: She was the "Girl Under the Stairs."
17:15 "People were still counting what number employee they were."
20:00 Her boyfriend said, "It's him or it's me."
20:55 What brought you back to James?
22:00 (AGENCY . COM) was responsible for many generations to come!
22:55 What was it like working in "The Pit"?
24:50 Chan & Ruth: Origins in the Time-Life Building
25:55 I had to figure out the "Information Super Highway."
26:50 The Vibe offices... a lot of smoke... some of it from cigarettes
29:00 The tail end of the "Travel Department" offices
31:50 He walked me home 30 blocks... it felt... kind of romantic.
33:00 There's rules and then there's reality.
35:00 "We worked 7 weeks straight without a day off."
36:15 Hyde Park in a rowboat
39:30 My sister said, "I think Chan is your soulmate."
40:00 Group chat!
43:40 "This one's for you, Chan-baby!"
52:35 What's the biggest difference from when you started dating to now?
57:50 I remember distinctly where we had that exchange where we both "came out."
Carla helped shepherd the advertising world to a digital future as President of OgilvyOne in the '90's and is now Executive Partner, Chief Executive, Ogilvy Consulting, and Chief Digital Officer, The Ogilvy Group.
Episode Timeline
3:15 How it all began...
4:50 We started to use it for marketing... called it "Brochureware"
6:30 Biggest consolidation in advertising history...
10:50 The beauty of having the consolidated IBM business
12:25 We did a global Yahoo buy... the first one ever!
14:20 I think people have always been attracted to working at Ogilvy
16:30 The vibe of the whole thing was just massive growth *
19:00 We pioneered the whole idea of integrated marketing
20:35 If you didn't have respect of the creatives... FORGET IT!
23:00 CPG stayed out of the picture for a really long time.
24:20 I was an expert in search for about four minutes...
29:25 It was in the David Ogilvy tradition of "We sell, or else!"
30:15 Did the Ogilvy brand help with client conversations?
33:35 Are there any "nightmares" that come to mind? *
36:45 If you don't fail early, you're going to be really late to the party.
40:45 The thread of "We sell, or else!" continues, yes?
42:45 Was there a definitive time where digital was embraced?
44:00 In the 90's I didn't need to do "new business." I just walked in the door!
48:05 Biggest factor was, "Did you get the targeting right?"
49:15 Where are you headed now?
53:10 It feels a bit like it did back in 1997...
Paul was employee #1 at AGENCY.COM and Geoff wasn't too far behind. They were founding members of "The Pit" the nickname of the place where all the magic happened creating the very first Websites.
Episode Timeline
4:15 Are you still going by "Poobie King"?
6:45 How it all began for Paul (Poobie)
9:30 How it all began for Geoff
13:55 "I liked that no one knew what they were doing."
15:25 Geoff, what was it like for you?
16:15 "It was way better than making junk mail."
17:20 "I remember being excited about new browser releases."
17:55 Where did the name, "The Pit" come from?
18:40 "I probably worked 3 years worth... in 9 months!"
22:00 Did the culture change for you guys?
25:55 Yeah... I don't like this management thing.
27:05 "It feels like I'm running a Romper Room!"
29:10 Mr. Badner, do you remember THIS?!
31:30 "I think about it every time I drive through Times Square"
35:00 "It was less about the projects and more about the experience."
36:20 "You know who I still talk to is John Nack"
40:05: "I left twice..." [FREEZE]
41:25 "I think I fell in love with the design process."
45:30 "Curiosity and being comfortable with constant change..."
49:10 "Can you make our logo rotate?"
Ep. 8 - Lewis Gersh, in partnership with AOL, founded Worldy Information Network in 1998 focusing on investor info publishing during the height of the DOTCOM boom.
Episode Timeline
4:25 What are you doing now?
5:00 My first JV with Omnicom and Organic
6:05 Entrepreneur "Reverse Commuters"
6:35 Talk about the "AOL Thing"
8:20 We had 24,000 SKUs of Japanese Animé
10:00 How did you find Organic
12:00 The traffic must have been enormous!
14:55 Mitsui had backed AOL
18:15 We were sharing space with Organic in Chelsea
22:15 Getting people to understand the power being inside AOL
25:20 We've come full circle... it's now Facebook
29:00 We need to talk about "Yo-Yos"
32:25 What did you do that really was new territory?
34:40 Remember when HTML banners came out?!
37:55 One the best banner ads I remember
40:20 We had 2 T1's... in MANHATTAN!
43:10 What was it like investing in the post-Dotcom-Bubble environment?
43:34 Bubble 1.0
46:55 People were talking about Web 2.0
50:10 Lewis has gone mad. I'm sure Lewis has gone mad!
53:00 Take us into the future... What is phase 4.0?
Julia headed up digital for British Airways as they made their transition to Web-based booking. She'll be joined by some special guests who worked with her at AGENCY.COM.
Episode Timeline
4:50 How did it all begin?
6:00 Went out with the Saatchis and smoked Marlboro Lights
9:35 How did you decide to find someone to help you?
12:45 There's no point in writing an RFP if people just ignore it!
14:10 We were very tech-driven
16:10 Introducing Esther Han and Margot Hyun - It's a Party!
17:55 Esther tell her origin story
18:30 Say hi to Margot
20:30 Early days of the BA/ACOM relationship
22:30 Who was the procurement guy?
25:00 Some fun pics from 1996
27:25 Do you know how much your IPO cost me?!
29:05 How Esther started on the BA account
32:00 Margot's time in London, "I couldn't understand what anyone said!"
35:15 The time we flew the whole London Team to New York
36:50 What did we build that you were proud of?
39:50 Web-in-a-Box™
40:40 When we taught 400 people what the Internet was... in a Hanger
43:10 RAD - Rapid Application Development (Agile before Agile!)
48:30 It was a singular time in history
50:20 What Esther is up to today
52:55 What did you carry forward from those days, Julia?
54:30 Wrap-up Party
Ep. 6, Jeff Dachis & Craig Kanarick, the Founders of Razorfish help us kick off 2021 with a bang. We're gonna party like it's 1995.
Episode Timeline
4:00 We like to start... at the beginning.
5:05 Jeff and I knew each other growing up.
9:00 A related AGENCY . COM story...
11:50 You could feel convergence happening.
13:00 The Liberal Arts degree turned out to be handy.
14:25 I bumped into the folks at Blender... I bump into Craig.
16:12 By definition we were lucky.
17:30 This was really happening in New York.
19:25 Razorfish... what the heck?! How'd you come up with the name?
23:50 Break the Xerox machine... fill the inkwell with spaghetti sauce and see what happens.
24:40 There was a small group of us that wanted the Internet to be a beautiful place.
27:15 Build the "Thing," not the "Thing about the Thing."
28:30 The time where you didn't have to explain what the "World Wide Web" was.
30:00 When Omnicom made that bet on those 6 companies... It changed the game.
31:25 What was "Holy Crap! We did that!"? ...Building Schwab . com.
35:22 We were at an Omnicom event in London...
36:30 If you want your Website to do that, Division A needs to talk to B.
39:05 Who wanted to have a bunch of failed projects on your roster?!
41:50 How did those early times impact what you do now?
43:30 How did you maintain your culture as you grew?
45:00 Craig, what are you doing today?
47:15 Jeff, how about you?
51:10 Jeff and I would step back a lot to appreciate where we were.
54:20 In Healthtech I feel a similar sense of change.
The podcast currently has 15 episodes available.