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Well, trying to.  But sometimes we just can't help ourselves.  Fear not, Curt and I are here to help...probably.

I asked for some listener stories, conflicts, and tales and we got them.  Curt and I go over a situation that a firefighter had with his Lieutenant after a mistake was made.

Before that we're giving some opinions on episode 2 of True Detective and answering the most important question to date; is Avenged Sevenfold old enough to be cool yet?

Thank you for listening and send your stories, situations, and questions to the 4th Shift Firefighter IG page or email at [email protected]

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