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In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with furniture designer Sam Kille about his route from military service into bespoke furniture making. Sam explains how carpentry and joinery in the Royal Engineers shaped his discipline precision and approach to craft. He talks openly about running a furniture business with a partner, stepping away during Covid, and returning with a clearer sense of direction.
The conversation covers Scandinavian and Japanese influences, heirloom quality furniture, and the realities of selling bespoke work in the UK. Sam also discusses pricing honestly, choosing the right clients, diversifying income through kitchen work, and why furniture should last generations. This episode offers a grounded view of what it takes to build a sustainable furniture practice without shortcuts.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
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Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction to Sam Kille and his background
01:10 Military training and carpentry trade
02:38 Starting a furniture business with a partner
03:39 Closing the business and stepping away
04:29 Design influences and visual language
05:30 Sam’s design process and sketching
06:10 Diversifying skills to survive financially
08:40 Selling bespoke furniture and pricing reality
09:02 Heirloom quality and long term value
10:26 Family legacy and inherited furniture
10:55 Discipline from military life
13:08 Working with clients and trust
15:51 Saying no and choosing the right work
18:18 Timber choices and material preference
25:07 Pricing honesty and time value
27:00 Apprenticeships and traditional joinery skills
31:40 Continuous professional development
39:44 Four day working week
43:00 Identity and business ownership
45:38 Advice to younger makers
47:45 Where to find Sam’s work
In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with South London furniture designer Laurent Peacock about his route from industrial design into bespoke furniture making. Laurent explains why mass production left him cold and how working directly with wood gave him clarity and purpose. He talks openly about earning the Guild Mark and the validation it brought both personally and professionally.
The conversation explores the tension between form and function in contemporary furniture design, the pressure to build a recognisable style, and the reality of making work that must last as well as look right. Laurent also shares his discomfort with self promotion, his approach to exhibitions, and why tactility and physical interaction sit at the centre of his work. This episode offers a clear and honest view of what it takes to build a sustainable practice in high quality furniture making.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction to Laurent Peacock and his background
00:34 Early fascination with making and design
02:20 Industrial design and dissatisfaction with mass production
03:31 Discovering furniture making and working with wood
05:10 Submitting work for the Guild Mark
06:45 Validation confidence and opening professional doors
08:52 Community support within woodworking
12:10 Struggles with promotion and visibility
15:51 The divide between galleries and functional furniture
18:58 Storytelling versus build quality
21:34 Process driven design and material exploration
25:27 Longevity function and criticism of fragile art furniture
30:39 Finding position on the form and function spectrum
36:09 Experimentation play and constraints
40:05 Searching for a coherent creative story
45:29 Hiding technique and letting form speak
49:19 What buyers respond to at exhibitions
56:51 Tactility interaction and physical experience
1:02:05 Accessibility value and pricing reality
1:03:40 Advice to his eighteen year old self
1:05:28 Where to see Laurent’s work
This episode of Yours for the Making dives deep into the world of chainsaw sculptor Ella Fielding. Her story offers a clear view of how creativity takes shape when instinct, physical craft and neurodiversity come together. Robin Johnson talks with Ella about her early start in sculpture, the impact of dyslexia and ADHD on her creative thinking, and her discovery of a fast and intuitive way of working with wood.
Ella explains the emotional experience of carving fallen trees for clients, the practical challenges of working with different timbers and the therapeutic presence she feels when cutting. She also explores the flaws of traditional education, the value of hands-on learning, the influence of play, and the importance of making without the pressure to display or impress. This is a grounded and honest conversation that celebrates the maker mindset and the spirit of curiosity that drives creative work.
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Ella’s journey into sculpture and chainsaw carving
The impact of dyslexia and ADHD on creative problem solving
Limitations of traditional art education and the value of practical learning
The importance of play in early creativity
Mindfulness through physical craft and focused making
Working with different types of wood and the challenges each one presents
How personal stories and environments shape commissioned pieces
The emotional role of tree carving and honouring fallen trees
Social media use for creative community building
Building confidence in handmade work without public pressure
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction to Ella and her unique creative path
00:52 Discovering chainsaw carving during her sculpture degree
04:30 Finding confidence through fast and instinctive making
05:47 The uncertainty of a career in fine art
09:19 Ella leaves school at 14 and discovers hands on learning
13:02 Discussion on the flaws in the education system
18:26 Creativity, play and permission to fail
20:51 The joy and discovery that happens through making
21:10 How the tree itself shapes the final sculpture
23:19 The emotional process of carving fallen trees
25:48 How Ella designs commissions that reflect people and place
26:24 The influence of neurodiversity on her creative life
33:34 The sensory link between materials and creativity
36:50 The importance of making without public pressure
40:20 Mindfulness and presence in chainsaw carving
43:37 The role of surfing and making in mental clarity
48:51 Working with different types of wood
52:18 Respect for ancient trees and the emotional impact of loss
55:38 Public commissions and where to see Ella’s work
57:22 Social media and creative community
59:20 Advice Ella would give her eighteen year old self
In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Lindsey and Rik Goodman about designing building and running Looking Glass Lodge in Fairlight East Sussex. The conversation follows their journey from an early idea of a small shepherd style retreat to delivering a striking glass fronted woodland lodge with near full occupancy.
Lindsey and Rik explain the influence of family history and woodland stewardship on the design, the planning challenges of building in an area of outstanding natural beauty, and the financial pressure created by specialist glass requirements and rising material costs during Covid. They discuss sourcing locally, designing for calm rather than activity, switching from build mode to marketing overnight, and learning what guests actually value. This episode gives a clear view of the emotional financial and practical reality of building a high end retreat in the UK countryside.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 Introducing Looking Glass Lodge and its location
01:10 Family history and woodland background
02:33 The original shepherd hut idea
03:41 Design ambition grows with the site
04:25 Location led design and woodland immersion
05:32 Planning permission challenges
06:41 Wildlife protection glass and light control
07:27 Budget pressure and committing to the build
08:23 Covid impact on material costs
09:14 Stress coordination and competing priorities
10:03 Mental strain during the build
12:53 Deadline pressure and opening on time
14:00 Transition from building to marketing
15:26 First guest feedback and confidence
16:52 Supporting local suppliers and makers
17:47 Designing for rest not activity
19:14 Guest behaviour and repeat bookings
20:05 Research inspiration and Scandinavian influence
21:17 Biophilic design and material choices
23:11 Interior decisions and practical compromises
25:14 Would they build again
27:28 Financial reality and sustainability
28:12 Occupancy rates and success
32:14 Guest privacy and low contact hosting
38:35 Advice for anyone building a retreat
39:06 Research commitment and loving the project
40:06 Advice to their younger selves
42:14 Where to find and book the lodge
Robin Johnson talks with master marquetarian and teacher Audrey Fasquelle in a detailed exploration of the craft, technique and mindset behind one of the most demanding decorative arts. Audrey shares her journey from early cabinet making in France to advanced marquetry for luxury vehicles, along with her teaching roles at Farnham, West Dean and Robinson House Studio.
She explains how veneers behave, how grain direction shapes outcomes, how colours and undertones must be read correctly and why mistakes should be expected and embraced. This episode highlights the real labour behind fine marquetry, the problem solving required for curved work, the rising interest in handmade detail and the importance of slowing down, preparing carefully and training your eye. A clear and honest look at a craft that rewards patience, precision and obsession with detail.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 What marquetry is and why it works like a jigsaw
01:20 How veneers behave and why pressing technique matters
03:30 Grain direction and why most beginners snap their first pieces
05:40 Patience, preparation and understanding imperfections
07:05 Audrey’s journey from cabinet making to marquetry training
11:20 Difference between marquetry and parquetry
13:10 Early career challenges and failed attempts at a marquetry business in France
15:20 Working at Silverlining and later moving into luxury automotive marquetry
17:40 Creative demands of high level bespoke interiors
19:10 Learning laser cutting to support modern marquetry practice
20:00 Teaching at West Dean and adapting to different student personalities
26:40 Speaking for woodworker guilds and joining the Farnham teaching team
31:00 Teaching at Robinson House Studio and learning to handle student frustration
35:00 Balancing full time work with her own studio practice
39:20 Key projects that shaped her career including a complex degree piece
43:00 Turning stacked veneer blocks into patterned drinking vessels
49:50 How long detailed marquetry takes from design to finish
52:40 How colour undertones influence veneer selection
55:00 Techniques for curved marquetry and flexible veneer applications
58:40 Advice to her younger self about patience and persistence
01:01:10 Becoming a recognised master marquetarian and where to find her courses
Keywords:
marquetry, veneer work, fine woodworking, decorative woodcraft, cabinet making, parquetry, veneer cutting, grain direction, luxury craft, handmade furniture detail, West Dean College, Farnham School of Art, Robinson House Studio, Silverlining, luxury car interiors, curved marquetry, flexible veneers, creative woodwork, woodworking education, artisan training, traditional crafts, British craft podcast, Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson, master maker, creative process, wood textures, veneer preparation, marquetry tools, hand cut marquetry
Robin Johnson sits down with Biesse Sales Manager Mark Trapnell for a detailed look at manufacturing, production flow, tooling decisions, CNC capability and the practical realities of running a modern workshop. Mark shares his journey from apprentice heavy goods mechanic to senior roles across major manufacturing businesses before moving into machinery consultancy.
He explains why understanding process flow, input quality, tooling choices and skill sets matters more than any single machine. This episode gives clear insight into lean thinking, production efficiency, value stream mapping and what small makers should consider before investing in CNC machinery. A grounded conversation full of practical advice for anyone working with wood, materials or complex workshop processes.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 Mark’s background and early career in heavy goods engineering
04:00 Moving into woodworking and large scale pine furniture manufacturing
08:30 Training, City and Guilds progression and early CNC exposure
12:00 Managing teams, production flow and why seconds matter at scale
17:50 Lean principles and the importance of correct input processes
21:30 Cutting waste, skip costs and understanding value stream mapping
25:20 Why lean is pointless without clear information from designers and clients
29:50 The reality of manufacturing for prisons and major tier one contractors
33:40 Lessons from running workshops without formal training
38:30 Complex refurbishment projects including House of Lords benches
42:00 Joining Biesse and why real production experience matters in sales
46:30 Choosing the right CNC and why Mark refuses to oversell machines
49:10 Should small makers consider stone and advanced materials
52:00 What first time machine buyers must understand before investing
55:30 Why skilled labour plus CNC creates the strongest workflow
59:40 Advice for young makers and why you must take opportunities
Furniture designer Stephen Clark from Clark & Co joins Robin Johnson for a detailed look at how real product design works behind the glossy brochures. Stephen explains the journey from university projects to designing mass market furniture for major retailers and then shifting into high end bespoke manufacturing. He talks openly about the pressure of designing for different budgets, why accessible good design matters, and how storytelling and communication shape every product that reaches a customer.
This conversation breaks down the creative process, the reality of British manufacturing, the rise of AI in design, and the responsibility designers carry when their work ends up in thousands of homes. It is a practical and honest guide for makers, designers and anyone who wants to understand how furniture is really made.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction to Stephen Clark and how he found furniture design
00:53 Moving from university into retail with Home Retail Group
03:01 What it takes to design for different retailers and budgets
03:42 Shifting into bespoke manufacturing with Friend Group
08:54 Why Stephen started Clark and Co and changed direction
11:26 Understanding the customer journey and design communication
17:29 Balancing high end design with budget and manufacturing constraints
25:21 How AI supports the workflow of modern designers
34:46 Using augmented reality to help customers visualise furniture
40:57 Stephen’s future plans and long term design vision
Jacob Lockwood joins Robin Johnson to unpack the reality of building a premium clothing brand in Britain at a time when most of the industry has outsourced its craft. Jacob explains how he turned his military needs into a business that now designs and manufactures high grade British smocks using Cordura, Harris Tweed and UK sourced materials.
He talks openly about the real cost of making things properly in the UK, the struggle to find skilled machinists, the shift in consumer mindset towards buying fewer but better items, and the pressure of scaling a product while refusing to compromise on quality. Jacob also shares how he built traction without an agency, the role of social media in driving demand, and his vision to grow a British brand that stands for durability, skill and long term value.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction to Jacob and the story behind Lockwood Premium British Smocks
2:11 How military experience shaped his design philosophy
4:18 Why consumers are shifting towards premium clothing
7:35 The true cost and difficulty of British manufacturing
10:24 The challenge of finding skilled British makers
13:38 When a brand must slow down to protect quality
14:10 The role of social media in attracting loyal buyers
22:40 Why he refuses to compromise on materials
34:32 Future product plans and ambitions for the brand
37:50 Lessons Jacob learned while building the business
1:06:45 The wider impact of UK manufacturing on the economy
1:08:07 Final thoughts and Jacob’s long term vision
James Burtt joins Robin Johnson to share his remarkable journey from a failed radio presenter and cabaret singer to becoming one of the UK’s leading podcast producers. Having launched almost 200 shows—with 98% charting on iTunes—James reveals the strategies behind creating, growing, and monetising successful podcasts.
He breaks down why podcasting is the most underused marketing tool for businesses, how authenticity drives long-term results, and why most creators quit before the breakthrough. From early missteps in radio to building Phonic, a thriving podcast production agency, this episode is packed with straight-talking advice for creators, entrepreneurs, and brands who want to stand out through storytelling.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 – Robin introduces podcast producer James Burtt
03:25 – From failed radio presenter to discovering podcasting
05:55 – How Phonic was born during the pandemic
07:18 – How to monetise a podcast without ads
12:15 – The power of guest selection and tactical networking
17:22 – Why you don’t need fancy equipment to start a podcast
21:41 – Lessons from Steven Bartlett and Joe Rogan’s rise
26:45 – Why most creators give up too soon
30:45 – The importance of authenticity in building an audience
39:00 – How to choose the right guests for long-term growth
46:49 – Advice for aspiring podcasters: define your version of success
53:36 – The truth about content quality and audience fit
56:39 – Life advice: stickability, consistency, and learning your craft
1:00:49 – Why persistence always wins
In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson sits down with tree surgeon, timber framer, and chainsaw instructor James Vann for a grounded, unfiltered conversation about the life of a modern woodsman. From growing up on a Kent farm to working across Europe in forestry and learning the craft of timber framing, James has built a life around the forest.
He talks about the danger and discipline of felling trees, the devastation of ash dieback, and the importance of sustainable woodland management. The conversation dives into deer stalking, ethical hunting, the use of local timber, and the undervalued nature of tree work as a trade. This is an honest portrait of a man who lives by the seasons, works with nature, and finds meaning in hard work, good tools, and doing things properly.
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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.
Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.
Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.
Key Moments:
00:00 – Robin introduces James Vann, a craftsman of the forest
02:00 – Starting a firewood business as a teenager and learning through graft
03:16 – Working abroad and discovering a global community of foresters
05:38 – The dangers and discipline of tree surgery
07:59 – Understanding and managing ash dieback in British woodlands
11:00 – The role of deer in forest health and biodiversity
13:40 – Hunting in Australia and the ethics of sustainable hunting
17:45 – Butchering, processing, and cooking wild game
21:00 – How hunting changed James’s relationship with food
32:35 – Shifting from furniture making to timber framing
34:20 – Milling, framing, and building with local oak
37:05 – The moral conflict of felling healthy trees
41:06 – The obsession with imported timber and monoculture forestry
44:17 – Chestnut coppicing, undervalued crafts, and the cost of cheap timber
47:11 – Why forestry work is undervalued and misunderstood
50:28 – Competing with European oak and imported timber
53:50 – Moving into training and forestry education
55:07 – Reflections on Kings of the Wood and lessons from TV work
57:16 – Advice to his younger self: focus, commit, and master one craft
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