When most people hear the word "exorcism," they picture Hollywood horror.

But the reality is far quieter and perhaps far more unsettling.

This week, Yvette is joined by Reverend Dr Jason Bray, Dean of Llandaff Cathedral in Cardiff and a practising deliverance minister for the Church of England, who has personally carried out exorcisms.

From the cold spot around his newborn's cot to the figure he sensed on the other side of a door, Jason's journey into this world began at home.

He reveals what really happens when the Church is called in, why deliverance ministers always work in pairs, the difference between "place memories" and active presences, and where he draws the line between the spiritual and the psychological.

This one will change how you think about the Church and what it quietly deals with every day.

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