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Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1ds5zgn/zhaozhou_investigates
Why does Zhaozhou investigate?
Translation question: Who is the old woman?
Who is investigating who?
What is knowing yourself about, anyway?
Is Zhaozhou a person of no importance, or a failed general?
Who is sneaking on who?
https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dplzos/one_need_not_search_around/
What is mind anyway? What is Buddha? Religious people/academics, protecting their accomplishment vs Zen Masters creating conflict Being a peer? Lots of translation discussion.
Faith in Mind.
What does it mean to not discriminate?
How do Zen Masters get through a day of non-discrimination?
What is helping people?
Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dp9bdh/preferences_opinions_views_hsin_hsin_ming/
https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dnzb7q/is_your_mind_moving/
Twenty-nine: Neither wind nor banner
The Sixth Patriarch, because the wind blew the temple banner, two monks debated. One said the banner moves. One said the wind moves. Repeatedly, they did not reach the truth.
The Patriarch said, "It is not the wind that moves, nor the banner that moves. It is the mind of the virtuous that moves."
The two monks were startled.
Wumen saysIt is not the wind that moves, not the banner that moves, not even the mind that moves. Where then, do you see the Patriarch? If you perceive this closely, then you know the two monks traded iron for gold. The Patriarch, hardly able to restrain his amusement, let out a joke.
# The verse says,Wind, banner, and mind stirred,
one of these surpasses the others.
Only knowing how to talk,
not sensing the failure of speaking.
# DiscussionIs this free will or determinism? Or nature or nrture? Is there "Freedom to not buy the BS"? What is "Free will" in spanish? Abiter of your own liberty. Catholics, and Free Will vs God's Pocket Watch is being mean to us. ARBITER OF LIBERTY Zen Masters in the no-man's land between science and religion monks vs huineng vs wumen vs 4 statements Would you save a drowning child Zen is scientific. Ayn Rand, Pascal's Wager, and Huineng's Hypothesis
https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dk7nnv/25_zhaozhou_visits_two_hermits_miaozongs_verses/
Translation questions.
Who thinks they are different?
Is Zhaozhou saying they are, or are we reading they are?
What's the difference between academic and personal?
Translating the verse, why does Wumen say Deshan ended up blind?
https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1di4ifp/you_have_to_go_in_the_dark/
Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dfpkbz/zen_irl_an_addict_a_felon_and_a_garland_of_flowers/
Why a myth Case?
Is the baby afraid to be born?
Is Zen Master Buddha that helpful?
Do people change? Can they? What does change look like?
Can you step in the same river twice?
Do Straight Edgers get the grief that Zen precepts have garnered?
Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dd7rfo/nanquans_treasured_words/
Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1dc7hiz/not_about_gain_and_loss/
Original Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1daaq0r/zen_in_real_life_answer_quickly/
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