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Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/za5mwr/zen_under_the_gun_answering_a_madman/
Post Summary: Dalan said:
"After the end of the summer retreat, all of you Zen worthies will go off in various directions.
"Suppose that suddenly in a village of three families you bump into a madman who asks you this: 'Eminent one, you have come from Jingshan, so tell me what did the master who founded the temple there mean when he said. "There are carp on top of the mountains, and there is scattered dust at the bottom of the well"?
"To succeed, you must answer the madman with skill in means You cannot quote ancients or moderns to him, or talk of phenomena or inner truth. You cannot shake out your sleeves and go, or spit in his face.
"If you answer him and he doesn't understand, you will earn a rebuke from him, and he will say to you. Plenty of fuel and water has been hauled in for you to use on Jingshan, eminent one, but you have never even dreamed of the Buddha Dharma."
"If you cannot answer him, you also implicate me in your failure " This is an iron hammerhead with no hole for the handle.
Dalan tapped with the whisk and said. "As all of you travel together on the road down the mountain, your eyes see for themselves the windblown mist.
Zen Teaching: Daian in Zen Under the Gun
Post Cast Overview: How are you going to answer Daian? Lots of problems arise. Why a fish on a mountain? What does the dry well symbolize? Talking to a Zen Master about what a madman says about another Zen Master.
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